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« Reply #2051 on: 1 September 2009, 00:07:17 » |
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Yeah. OK.
I have a pass to see 9 on Thursday and I'm gonna go with the girl. You guys reading MM and FF things into it seems ridiculous and you've probably all got condoms full of illegals bursting in your bums because I think you might have to be dropping your deliriants as abhorrently as that to be tripping so much balls.
I can see the Burton-esque appeal (minus heavily-weirdly-curvy buildings/landscapes/characters/staplers/cups/letters) thing very clearly and anyone missing that has had their eyes replaced with sweet and sour chicken balls, and while Chinese take-out would be delicious tonight that is no way to watch a movie trailer.
Appeal. "Appeal" is one of the principle principles of animation, and one of the more ambiguous ones in that appeal can at times be frustratingly subjective. "Appeal" most basically refers to a sense, or an emotional reaction, to something. It's more about perception of a concept than what the concept actually looks like. Who is involved behind the scenes isn't even beside the point, it's way over there. It took a bus, it got a transfer, it's gone.
There is a very clear feeling you get with the trailer for 9 that is present in films Tim Burton actually did himself, if there wasn't that APPEAL then to assume that Tim Burton superfans (or "those people") would love it because his name is on there would be unfounded. You think that people will think about it as a Tim Burton film because you are, whether consciously or not, picking up on a certain aesthetic about 9 that reminds you of his work. No, the designs don't look like Tim Burton's stuff. Hell, maybe it isn't even thematically similar, exactly. But there is an undeniable aspect, or quality, that reeks (not rings) of Burton. I don't know how anyone doesn't see it. ASR only has four senses and he picked up on it! And I also noticed the similar appeal before I was aware Tim Burton was at all involved. The correlation is both obvious and strong, quod erat demonstrandum.
I wouldn't lump Donnie Darko or Invader ZIM in this myself, though. Those don't give off the same imprint for me, though I do understand the reference under the terms that they tend to share the same (not so) sub-culture.
Don't get me wrong; I don't care at all about the movie. But it's free and at least semi-interesting since I had an idea for a series that seems to have a similar starting point a few years ago, and that's pretty much good enough for me.
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« Reply #2055 on: 1 September 2009, 02:16:34 » |
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I have no idea what you're fighting. More or less just the term. Mike, I looked at the trailer and thought only once of Tim Burton at the very beginning, and the whole trailer itself took me away from that. I thought of probable kinds of people who'd like it, much like ASR did, but not Tim Burton. I just don't connect them. It is as you say, it's frustrating (in a way that, for me, lacks emotion) because I know people will compare them like they have such a strong connection and I definitely jumped to a conclusion when I read the term ASR used. I had known that it or something like it was going to come up and I'd known I was going to fight it, and then I did it for the wrong reason. But you made a good point, and it's okay of course that you've had your say. Unless someone else feels like educating me I'm going to come forward and say I'm willing to drop it, as I already would have but knew more people would be coming in on this. Anyway I was thinking of finding a way to watch the Rocky Horror Picture Show. |
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« Reply #2057 on: 5 September 2009, 02:14:59 » |
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I'm gonna watch Tron again with friends soon. Haven't seen it since in the days. Tron Legacy looks badass. Plus Olivia Wilde can melt me with any of her features including stupid stuff like eyebrows, she's off the wall balls hot. I always wanted to play Tron 2.0, but it was probably bad. Posted on: 1 September 2009, 02:17:50
OK so we saw 9 yesterday. Don't bother. It's not really bad... Not really. Although she got really bored I was at least interested (but still slightly bored). And the whole movie BARELY over an HOUR long, yet it still drags. There's little to no character development and I basically figured out the whole plot before it was half over. The Tim Burton appeal isn't as palpable as in the trailer but the movie suffers from hard to read action and what many games these days have so much of, which is "realistic" colouring; I.E. a lot of the movie is painted with an all too heavy hue of gunmetal grey or ##### brown. I don't like this because it's not realistic at all, especially when everything looks a lot alike. If you really want to see it, find a way to do it for free or wait to rent it. I didn't totally HATE it, though I doubt I'd ever walk out on a movie, but I'd be mad if we had had to pay to see it. |
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« Reply #2058 on: 5 September 2009, 02:25:22 » |
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I really want to see Gamer. I know, I know. Still, if I'm going to go see a mindless action movie, it's going to be one made by Nevaldine and Taylor. These guys gave me Crank and Crank 2, which reminded me of how much fun I could have watching movies. I don't care if Gamer takes itself more seriously than those films, I still trust them. Plus, it's got Michael C. Hall.
I'm just as interested in Extract, which has a fun cast and, more importantly, is the new Mike Judge movie. Might go see that on Monday on of them there date things everyone seems so keen about. You know, with girls and French kisses. Although admittedly there's usually just the one girl, and kissing is gross!
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« Reply #2063 on: 7 September 2009, 04:22:53 » |
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I'd like to start off by saying that I know this next claim will likely make me sound like an idiot.
"Gamer" is my favorite movie of 2009 so far. More than "Inglourious Basterds," more than "500 Days of Summer." More than "Up" and "Watchmen" and "Star Trek."
It was amazing and I am in love. This movie transcends the already awesome premise of using death-row inmates as mind-controlled players in a video game called Slayers. It's funny because it's tongue-in-cheek, it's action-packed because these guys GET action, and Michael C. Hall is absolutely perfect as a villain. I mean, we're talking classic iconic performance here.
I was expecting to enjoy this movie first and foremost because Michael C. Hall is in it. Also, I like the director team of Nevaldine/Taylor, who gave me two Crank movies. Those were loads of fun and really great, but they were too ridiculous to really ever become endearing. They're just like the roller-coasters of movies. But Gamer has all those elements and manages to make it all respectable, fun, and above all else: cool. These guys have such a great style and after seeing Gamer they're definitely on my list of top directors. They've got this sense of ridiculously crazy movie-theater fun that nobody else has right now except maybe Quentin Tarantino.
Seriously, go see this movie.
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