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« Reply #50 on: 10 December 2007, 22:25:24 » |
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Most Repliroids seem desire a peaceful coexistence with humans. Racism is no subject in the Rockman universe until ZERO. OCW however notes that in earlier stages, when a Repliroid is drawn into a situation that requires him/her to choose between two sides, it may cause pain that will eventually lead to insanity and therefore becoming an Irregular. And who says they're slaves? Most work is done by Mechaniroids like Metools and other robots, but not Repliroids. Then again, there is work that can only done by Repliroids. The space development for example required the use of New Generation Repliroids and humans themselves are too weak and vulnerable to effectively fight Irregulars on their own. There might not have been an actual law that grants Repliroids the exact same rights and equality of humans until Rockman ZX, but they're not considered slaves or mere workers. That's what Mechaniroids are for. You want Repliroid slaves? Then you might consider moving to Neo Arcadia. If laws were equal between the two then none of this maverick bull##### would have happened....this of course not factoring in the virus.
Huh? There were always Repliroids that were considered Irregulars but neither suffered from Viral Infection, system malfunction or wanted independence from humanity. Take Cedar and Aluce from X7 for example. They're just after money, regular, Repliroid gangsters.
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« Reply #52 on: 10 December 2007, 22:36:17 » |
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A reploid is built and are given a set task. If they cannot perform that task then they are terminated regardless. This is how Neo Arcadia handles the situation, that's not the general idea. Repliroids are not created solely to do some work humans are to lazy to do themselves. A Repliroid is considered Irregular and handled accordingly if he violates the law, attacks humans etc. Just saying "No, I'm not doing this. Do it yourself." is not really an Irregular statement, except you're Copy-X but he blames Repliroids as Irregulars for such nullities in order to save energy that said Repliroid would consume instead of saving it for the humans Copy-X was made to protect. Reploids should be able to have no set task and allow them to do what they want. That's what's mostly done. Then again, there have been exceptions, like the Repliforce for example.
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« Reply #54 on: 10 December 2007, 22:46:22 » |
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Well humans should stop being lazy and help out with the work.
Blame Copy-X. He was made by Ciel with the objective to "protect the citizens of Neo Arcadia from Irregulars". Since Repliroids are potential Irregulars, they're constantly kept in check in order to supress the mildest revolt that might endanger the citizens, which, to him, are the humans. Neo Arcadia is supposed to be an utopia for the survivors of the great wars, the Irregular and the Elf War. Copy-X, who's a perfect physical double of X and believes to be X himself, thinks that he must act accordingly and therefore must protect humans from Irregulars, as they can't fight back themselves. Therefore, the smallest mistake or refusal might indicate Irregularity, hence Repliroids are terminated. Since Copy-X lacks X' experience and maturity, he doesn't handle the situation as X would do it, or rather, he acts accordingly to what he THINKS that X would do, with a priority on humans instead of a peaceful coexistence for both races. The result is obvious. Repliroids in Neo Arcadia lead the lives of an inferior citizen class that are abused by the system and humans as tools.
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« Reply #57 on: 10 December 2007, 23:47:39 » |
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If you played X4 Sigma pretty much says that "The maverick hunters sole mission is to destroy the reploids who do as the humans order."
That pretty much means that if the reploid cannot do as commanded it will be destroyed without question.
That's what Sigma said in order to confuse General in regard of the events he [Sigma] had already planned out. Repliforce was deemed Irregular because they declared independence from the humans after being blamed for being responsible for the fall of Sky Lagoon by Eregion. Sigma took advantage of the Repliforce's pride as soldiers. They would never lay down their weapons when told to. Although General openly declared that their independence was neither "about insurrection nor rebellion against their human creators", but about their "liberty and security", taking care of their own individual lives and their own survival, the human goverment thought of them as a very dangerous and heavily armed military organization that had to be taken out. Surely this conflict might have been solved peacefully, but Sigma knew what he was doing. When it was found out later that Sigma was the one who orchestrated all this, the responsible Hunter General resigned from his position and made space for Signas. Why do you people even BOTHER to discuss this drivel? Cyber elfs? Cyber World? This is one word from some idiot to being connected to Battle Network.
If you're not interested in this discussion, why are you reading this thread in the first place? You don't like Rockman ZERO? Don't meddle in the threads. Take your hatred elsewhere.
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« Reply #63 on: 11 December 2007, 00:04:03 » |
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It's probably not. But it's no X series. Obviously not. Afterall, this series is about Zero, as the name indicates =P And any discussion of the series and/or story (any series really) WILL include negatives and reasons to hate. You don't just sing and dance in the flowers and circle jerk over how good it is. Got MMN if you want to do that.
That may be true, but to some degree, we should try to maintain a neutral attitude towards it. Just throwing around curse words is nothing but spam. As for TMMN, I rarely go there, I already have my hands full with the chaos on RPM, although I don't moderate the forums anymore. ...
*Facepalms*
Rez is gonna chew your ass.
And this is the tone a mod should talk to a regular member? Oh yes Xero, you're doing a good job...
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« Reply #66 on: 11 December 2007, 00:12:47 » |
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Being a Mega Man fan DOESN'T mean you sugar coat every game that comes out and beg for more. It means there is a LOT of dissatisfaction and displeasure in the fandom. It's a passionate fandom. I'm not saying that the ZERO series was so awesome that I'd want to canonize Inafune and Inti Creates for creating it. But as far as I can tell, there's nothing what really would make me state a negative thing about the series either. Those were, to me, solid games with a good story, awesome music and fair difficulty level. And the staff here is very hands on. We don't sit on a pedistle looking down. I quite hope so. AND STOP POSTING SO DAMN FAST... Learn to type faster =P You don't talk about something with a "neutral" attitude and expect to have a good discussion.
I'm aware of that, by neutral I meant starting a discussion and focussing solely on flaming the series, but perhaps I didn't word it out good enough.
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« Reply #67 on: 11 December 2007, 00:16:33 » |
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Sorry Aresian, I don't swing that way. Aww. No really though, you don't have to be so formal, Rez. It IS me after all, good ol' Ares/Wild Eagle. ^_- Never the less, yes... that's Matrix's charm. It's why I've praised the place ever so much over the years. The staff are, in essence... like regular members. Why shouldn't they treat everyone as they treat themselves and vice versa? When it isn't a matter of Board and Site Security, regular communication should be the norm. It's what seperates machines from people, they have their own personalities and ways of thinking. Just the same, you should be able to speak openly about your thoughts and feelings aswell, while still maintaining some form of respect. I believe that is the most common sensical way of thinking, honestly.
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« Reply #77 on: 1 January 2008, 20:54:17 » |
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I've been out of the loop with MMZ after the first game, besides the occasional plot summary, so what parts of it, plot-wise, are wallbanging worthy? It's the steroids.
And crack cocaine! Because Dr.Cain is an ass.
"Oh! I have a great idea! Let's use X's design to create reploids that can think and reason on their own and put them to work like slaves since they are robots! I'm sure nothing can go wrong with that!"
More like an idiot. Wasn't he supposed to be an archaeologist or a botanist or something?
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