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Title: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: preventerWIND on 26 January 2008, 16:59:23
With the sales in Japan, doesn't seem like we're going to be getting a ZX3, it's some happy news for some(Rez) and disappointing for others. The goal was to sell 100,000 copies, but in Japan, they only succeeded in selling about 91,000 in 28 weeks.. Of course in North America, they sold well over 100,000 copies in 13 weeks! But who cares aboot us North Americaners, cuz we dont matter! Hyuck!.. If Japan can pull out about 9000 more sales by march, we can make the goal, but the sales have been declining lately. Oh well...

It's quite sad though, it looked as if ZX was the last hope for a "decent" MM game.. MM's future is looking might dim right about now.

Hopefully the dream for another Legends game is still alive in Capcom.


yeah right..


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Kamon on 26 January 2008, 17:21:25
And yet Capcom pump out SF3. Where's the logic?


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: preventerWIND on 26 January 2008, 17:44:59
It's what the "public" wants : (


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: yuri on 26 January 2008, 17:53:31
I will cry if megaman stops.  :'(


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Kamon on 26 January 2008, 18:14:15
It's what the "public" wants : (

And when the public wants either Megaman 9, X9 or Legends 3 we get nothing but Starforce...

Capcom are just gonna churn out when they can milk the most.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: ChaosVortex on 26 January 2008, 18:20:33
ZXA was about the same, if not better than ZX. It wasn't really awesome, but it is satisfactory for a Mega Man platformer. I'd play ZX over Starforce anyday.

If ZX is going to shut down, Star Force should as well. This is stupid.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: NovaMan XP on 26 January 2008, 18:24:55
They might as well kill Megaman and let him rest for once.

I mean, people are gonna know MegaMan as SF MegaMan, not the original. It's sad.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: ChaosVortex on 26 January 2008, 18:36:16
Capcom's driving this series all in the wrong direction.

ZX should improve in storyline and gameplay, it's so far decent. It just needs improvement.

Starforce was suck at the begginning. It's far too much like Battle Network. The gameplay should've been different. A little Legends gameplay (Jumping in the overworld for example) wouldn't hurt. The game is far too boring and short. It needs to either drastically change or shut down.

The Zero series deserved more than what it got. Horrible choice of system and how the story went along. Not to mention the X series.

X series got royally screwed around X5 and X6. The X series came back to save the day, but...

Maverick Hunter X and Powered Up shouldn't have been on the PSP. Great games, just poor sales strategy.

Battle Network was fine until BN4. Leave the series be, it's ended.

We need more Legends, X, and Classic. Mostly Legends and Classic. Personally, thinking about it now, I'd rather not hear a "Rockman and X Complete Works" book. It's just going to feed bull#####.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: TheRedPriest on 26 January 2008, 20:43:14
The fact people keep saying ZX is "a good meagman game" is the a good indication of what's actually wrong with the series.

ZX is not a good game.  I'm sorry.  I'm willing to let opinion slide, but the fact remains that the game play in ZX is atrocious.  MMZ played better than ZX.  ZX's gameplay is hingent on the "change form" gimmick, and anyone who says there is no problem with that in regards to gameplay is either lying or a complete idiot.

Spliting up the basic movements/abilities of the player cripples the gameplay.  I cite the most grevious example of this as using Model ZX and Model HX.  Air dashing and double jumping are two of the most basic moves, and the terrain is set up so you need to use said abilites frequently.  However, ZX's weapons are basically your default set of buster and saber.  HX's knifes suck.  So you end up switching back and foreth ever few steps to do what you should be able to do by default.  It goes on and on.

Now, if you want to move past the gameplay to every other aspect of ZX, I'll give you some leeway on being able say it's good before I stab you in the eye, but frankly, ZX managed to improve on the ultimate suck of MMZ's design and plot.  All of that is much more subjective.

Howver, I won't cry if there's no ZX3.  ZXA was unplayable.  I got to the first set of missions and finished two before I got sick of forcing myself to play it for the sake of playing it.  ZX is no better than SF, and both are pretty #####ty Mega Man spin offs.

Frankly, I don't see what Capcom can do really.  Going back to the old series we'd actually like will only result in said games being done in the style/flavor of the new ##### they're crapping out and will be forced to build into the cancerous #####hole of MMZ/ZX continuity.  Look at X7/X8 to guage how MM9/X9/Legends 3 will turn out.  No thanks.   A new spin off?  Again, looking at where Capcom is right now, I don't see how another new spin off would be any good.  The days of Legends and BN are over.  Legends was abandoned and BN rapped into the ground.

ZX dying a most deserved death doesn't mark the end of Mega Man.  It was already done with before ZX even showed up.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Xero on 26 January 2008, 21:45:06
Capcom should just come out and say that Mega Man is done with.



Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: preventerWIND on 26 January 2008, 21:51:07
They're too stubborn, it kind of seems like they're little kids refusing to face the facts and keep on insisting they didn't steal the cookie from the cookie jar or something. Just suck it up and kill Megaman. He already has 0 lives by now, if not -20..


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Xero on 26 January 2008, 22:21:25
What really fusterates me is how Mario continues to have sucess while Mega Man falters.

Now don't get me wrong, Mario is great but how is it possible for Mega Man to stoop so low as he is.  What is Nintendo doing that Capcom isn't?


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: preventerWIND on 26 January 2008, 22:28:04
They're choosing better game quallities I think, I mean, you never saw a Mario RPG did you? oh, scratch that..

But still, they continue to apply better things and gameplay while still making it seem like a general platformer. ZX on the other hand IS a platformer, but feels like crap since it's overloaded with usesless things.

That and that haven't changed the timeline 20 times. I'm sure when the next Mario game features Mario's daughter Mario-ina(or something) then the series will be done for.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Mikero on 26 January 2008, 22:41:51
Mario has his own console game like once every 3+ years. He generally only gets one Mario game per console unless you're going with a handheld, and even then it's still few. That means they take a lot of time making the game good, where as MM spinoffs come out so often that they're just crap.

I don't really care if ZX continues or dies.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Xero on 26 January 2008, 22:48:56
Then that is what Capcom should do.

Instead of crapping out a sequel every damn year is take the time to create a solid Mega Man game.

They can do fine without Mega Man for a few years and work on more RE and SF.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Kamon on 26 January 2008, 22:56:06
Like they did with the NES and SNES games, right?


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Xero on 26 January 2008, 22:59:58
Did they?


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Kamon on 26 January 2008, 23:04:24
I think Capcom came out with a new Megaman game every couple of years back on the NES and SNES.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Mikero on 26 January 2008, 23:09:13
Mega Man - '87
Mega Man 2 - '89
Mega Man 3 - '90
Mega Man 4 - '92


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Xero on 26 January 2008, 23:56:07
And back then it was solid.

So that's really what they should do.

Take a page out of Nintendo's book and make a Mega Man game every 2-3 years. 


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: ChaosVortex on 27 January 2008, 04:23:45
Mario has his own console game like once every 3+ years. He generally only gets one Mario game per console unless you're going with a handheld, and even then it's still few. That means they take a lot of time making the game good, where as MM spinoffs come out so often that they're just crap.

Yeah, I've been thinking this for years actually. Mega Man games spawn too quick and are only done to pass the satisfactory grade. Only rarely do we get gems like Powered Up with some real good quality.

Capcom is lazy, and makes cheap games. Then they wonder why their sales are so poor.

In all honesty, I could come up with hundreds of good ideas to implement in games but Capcom won't do it since it requires effort. I've yet to see any evidence otherwise.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: ASR on 27 January 2008, 04:31:52
The sad truth is that people will still buy MegaMan games regardless of their quality because it's an established franchise.

It's kind of like how people would undoubtedly go see another Star Wars movie if one came out, even if everyone agreed that it sucked.

Thus, Capcom takes the lazy way out and just churns out titles regardless of what wonders they could concievably make out of the series.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Mikero on 27 January 2008, 04:46:27
When someone asks a you for more, literally for more, because they like whatever you're giving them, they'll give you just that. Essentially people will be reluctant to change how they're doing something new/different for fear that others won't want their product anymore.

I hate people like that because they never improve. It's like people who only draw one type of thing or only anime (And what the ##### is up with that? How is it possible that 8 billion people love crap anime online? Like no matter how bad the person draws it-original characters or not-there's hoards of people going "kawaii" and thinking it's dope based on the fact that it's anime. People...) or whatever, or people who do the same card trick every minute (uuuuuuuuuuuugggggggggggnnhhhh hhhh), or people who do the same DDR/GH song on the same mode all the damn time.

Capcom hears "moar megaman" so they keep doing the same thing they're doing, which leads to the same predictably crap plots and devices over and over again because it's possible that they will lose the demand for Megaman if they innovate.

Such pussyholes.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: ChaosVortex on 27 January 2008, 04:47:55
Exactly. I swear -- like I said -- there are tons of different things they could do to Star Force to make it new, fresh, and fun. Capcom would much rather stick with the Battle Network formula because they're too afraid that it'll be too different and no one will buy it. That's utter bull#####. Look at Mario in 3D.

Mushrooms don't make you grow, you have a health bar, stars didn't give you invincibility (Galaxy excluded), etc.. Their games are still fun.

Such pussyholes.

I'd personally rather just say "pansies", but in any case, quoted for truth.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: yuri on 27 January 2008, 06:15:23
ZXA was about the same, if not better than ZX. It wasn't really awesome, but it is satisfactory for a Mega Man platformer. I'd play ZX over Starforce anyday.

If ZX is going to shut down, Star Force should as well. This is stupid.

Starforce blows.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: preventerWIND on 27 January 2008, 06:19:47
Yes we all know that.. next time type some more though..


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: ChaosVortex on 27 January 2008, 06:25:39
Like something more informative and less redundant.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Mikero on 27 January 2008, 07:26:52
I'd personally rather just say "pansies", but in any case, quoted for truth.

Pussyhole is a brit and caribbean all purpose insult for the kind of person you can't rely on for anything, who always borrows money/stuff, and also is the kind of person who'll "get rich and switch".

More than a pansy, a downright bitch really.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Xero on 27 January 2008, 10:37:48
We should blame this new generation of ass#####s who can't appreciate the old school Mega Man.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: ASR on 27 January 2008, 16:53:19
I'd rather blame Capcom.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Abominator on 27 January 2008, 17:14:09
Bear in mind that RnR1 tanked and they still made RnR2.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Xero on 27 January 2008, 17:23:40
Another thing is how Capcom takes their time with Resident Evil, Devil May Cry, Monster Hunter, etc.

Yet they just half assed make a slipshod game for Mega Man.

WHY?  Why in the ##### can't Capcom make a decent game for Mega Man?


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: yuri on 27 January 2008, 17:56:00
We should blame this new generation of ass#####s who can't appreciate the old school Mega Man.

I agree everyone does hate megaman games where I live.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: ASR on 27 January 2008, 18:00:41
That's not what he meant at ALL.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: ChaosVortex on 27 January 2008, 18:04:19
I'd personally rather just say "pansies", but in any case, quoted for truth.

Pussyhole is a brit and caribbean all purpose insult for the kind of person you can't rely on for anything, who always borrows money/stuff, and also is the kind of person who'll "get rich and switch".

More than a pansy, a downright bitch really.

I stand corrected, and have no objections.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: NovaMan XP on 27 January 2008, 18:31:02
Another thing is how Capcom takes their time with Resident Evil, Devil May Cry, Monster Hunter, etc.

Yet they just half assed make a slipshod game for Mega Man.

WHY?  Why in the ##### can't Capcom make a decent game for Mega Man?

Exactly! They take their time making their other games as great as possible and deliver to expectations.

With MegaMan, we get a half-assed piece of a crap in less than a year that's a clone of the last game with a different story that actually resembles the last one.

It's sad..


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Xero on 27 January 2008, 18:54:48
The worst part is that we can't do ##### about it.

At times I even think that Capcom is purposely running Megaman into the ground.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Vinchenz Rock on 27 January 2008, 19:08:59
Hence why I'm not a MegaMan fan anymore.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: ASR on 27 January 2008, 19:14:05
I'm still a MegaMan fan, just not so much of the new stuff.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: yuri on 29 January 2008, 11:49:24
True the new stuff has been crap once the x and zero series ended, they lost me.(zero was only ok.)


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: TriggerUNIT on 13 February 2008, 15:11:21
I'm still a MegaMan fan, just not so much of the new stuff.

Do you know why? Cuz it's not megaman. Just some random idea they decided to shove down the throats of the megaman fan base that was forced to interlock with the megaman story line the same way a circular peg is forced through a square hole, with too much complicated and useless effort and with an undesirable outcome.

Sorry Capcom, but even if you succeed in forcing the cylinder of fail into the that square pit of what once was great... it's still wrong.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: TheRedPriest on 13 February 2008, 18:32:05
Capcom hears "moar megaman" so they keep doing the same thing they're doing

They must be sitting in the men's restroom at IntiCreates studio if they are, because no one else is saying that #####.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Mikero on 13 February 2008, 19:02:25
Essentially they assume every single sale equates to "This game I just bought 3 seconds ago and haven't played was #####ing tops and we're all totally dick riding you here on planet Earth, Capcom".


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: NovaMan XP on 13 February 2008, 19:06:50
To Capcom, Sales = good.

Ratings = Nothing apparently.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: ASR on 13 February 2008, 19:10:43
Ratings usually = sales, though.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: NovaMan XP on 13 February 2008, 19:11:41
THEN WHY IS THIS ##### STILL COMING?!


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Mikero on 13 February 2008, 19:13:34
Because I'm not in a relationship with any of the female hosts of MTV Canada and the universe won't  stop weeping or be right until I am.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: ASR on 13 February 2008, 19:14:19
Also because of AIDS.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Xero on 14 February 2008, 20:09:11
I still find it astounding how Capcom treats all it's other series like gold yet gives MegaMan the finger.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: The Otaku on 9 March 2008, 04:08:43
Megaman games get worse and worse every day. With the exception of the ZX Series. But I can't bear to imagine what's in store for the Blue Bomber, which, might I add, isn't even blue anymore.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: preventerWIND on 9 March 2008, 04:30:01
If it were to get worse everyday it would have been shunned by history itself by now. And the ZX series is pure crap to what it used to be, but its probably our last chance for a game thats.. similar to what Megaman once was.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Mikero on 10 March 2008, 04:35:01
There is rarely such a thing as a 'last chance'.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: preventerWIND on 10 March 2008, 05:23:46
There is rarely such a thing as a 'last chance'.
*has been corrected*

Especially with Megaman.. it never ends..


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Xero on 10 March 2008, 10:01:59
Well the only thing we'll probably get is Starfail.

So to me MegaMan is dead.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: ChaosVortex on 15 March 2008, 14:57:06
Onlything worth getting is whatever series they're reviving. Classic, X, or Legends.

ZX is alright, but it's not great.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: TheRedPriest on 15 March 2008, 22:48:58
I might actually enjoy ZX a bit if not for the fact the gameplay is completely broken.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Xero on 16 March 2008, 10:33:34
...

The gameplay is fine....at least I think so...which is why I fail...*Heads into mauling tent*


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: TheRedPriest on 16 March 2008, 16:27:10
Jesus boy, I might as well just put in a cot and sink for you in that thing.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: TriggerUNIT on 17 March 2008, 15:37:09
I... actually didn't have a problem with the game play either, well Of ZX that is. Personally I liked the way they handled, even in the Zero series. But the plot and style has raped the series beyond repair.

 I just miss the days when the mightiest megaman was... well... Megaman. There is really no need for these increasingly moronic storylines. And that's just it. Why are they even trying to force a longer story line into #####ing Megaman games.

"Good guy raises to beat bad guy with little story line, simplicity" = Megaman/X = Gold.

"Introduction of #####ty complicated story line that contradicts what you heard before" = MMZ/ZX = #####ING FAIL WHICH IN TURN (DUE TO THEIR LINEARITY CONCEPT) MAKES MEGAMAN/X = #####ING FAIL!

Legends and BN are both just sorta there. And I Like them being just sorta there. There's no way, or at least not that I can see, that one can possibly connect them without #####ing ##### up.

SF is just crap to begin with, so it doesn't count! It doesn't even come close! In fact there is so much ##### wrong with that game, that it's actually HARD to find good points to rant about due to the fact that one point of it #####tyness does not out-#####ify any other aspect of it's #####tyness. You are better off just saying "THE ENTIRE GAME IS #####" than listing the problems individually. Why continue that? And more importantly, what the hell do some people find appealing about it as a Megaman game?

So to sum it up, I can't really see what is left for the X series, though I wouldn't mind a game from it that is well thought out. MMZ is dead much to most people's glee. BN has been milked to the point where half the games are excruciating to play. SF, as stated so many times, is complete crap, just a lame spin off of A #####ING SPIN OFF! ZX isn't THAT bad, but it in no way helps to fix the various things wrong with Megaman today, regardless of being what I would call "a good game". Legends is better off without another sequel because, of course it being released so much later, the other ##### series would have it's influence on it.

Classic? The Megaman I immediately think of when ever I hear the name? There is NO excuse why that shouldn't be continued, and even less of an excuse for them to ##### it up if they just so happen to do so. It's the first series, it relates to none of the crap series, so I don't see a way they could possibly ruin it. It had a simple guide line to follow and it #####ing worked! Continuing SF or any other series other than that is like dropping gold in favor of a steaming cow pie.

I wouldn't mind another ZX game if they actually seemed to at all think about it, but with whatever crap story line, characters and utter bull##### they might decide to toss in there with little to no thought what so ever while at the same time totally reversing everything you thought was set in stone with their concept of linearity between the series makes the thought of another ZX game nauseating. Despite that threat, so far, there is NO reason why they can't continue it. None! It does have potential but instead they drop it. It makes no sense!


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Mikero on 22 March 2008, 03:04:30
Can you 'sum it up' a couple more times so we don't have to read a big text brick?

...

The gameplay is fine....at least I think so...which is why I fail...*Heads into mauling tent*

Hm. That's interesting. Defeating yourself.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: TheRedPriest on 22 March 2008, 23:07:35
ZX's gameplay is awful.  You have to switch forms to do every damn move.  In Mega Man/ X, your playable character could, IN ONE FORM:

1) Double Jump
2) Air Dash
3) Dash
4) Wall Climb
5) Slide
6) Duck

As they applied to which game you were playing as obviously X couldn't slide (but why?).  The point being all your most basic movements didn't require you to STOP and change forms every time you came across a stage element, which you do in ZX.  That, at the most basic level is criminally bad gameplay design.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Rama Olendris on 24 March 2008, 22:27:22
I never got into ZX to begin with (I'm scared to venture past the Zero series in the time line) so I won't be missing anything if the end is imminent for the series.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Kayauts on 25 March 2008, 17:59:43
I liked both ZX and Starforce quite a bit more than Zero, but that doesn't really mean anything seeing as how the Zero series was frustrating as hell. I didn't find anything wrong with the gameplay in ZX, of course i beat it in 1 day, but i thought it was made the way it was to make it a bit longer lol. I don't know what it is about the ZX series, but it really drew my attention.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: TheRedPriest on 25 March 2008, 18:29:46
I suggest playing Mega Man X, the original.  Or any of the classic games.  See what a game with REAL gameplay is like.  Then you'll see ZX's critical flaws.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: ChaosVortex on 4 April 2008, 20:11:30
ZX's future looks a little slimmer, I guess.

Information from Heat Man (http://blue-bomber.jvmwriter.org/community/index.php?s=90f422f1ed3a9974143d6ce843b5097e&showtopic=1291&pid=26626&st=0&#entry26626) given to me by Someguy.

EDIT: Wait, nevermind. That's "previously unknown". I guess they're not giving up on the series yet.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Abominator on 4 April 2008, 20:17:36
Well, they gave up on the Classic series years ago and still make merch of it.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: yhchaosbdon on 6 April 2008, 08:59:05
I suggest playing Mega Man X, the original.  Or any of the classic games.  See what a game with REAL gameplay is like.  Then you'll see ZX's critical flaws.

You know, I've done exactly that, and I STILL perfer ZX's gameplay better.  Probably because I perfer handhelds and the X series sucked(to me anyway, it's my own opinion).  The classic Megaman was pretty good, but overall, I actually like where the series is going.  If not for Battle Network and the Zero series, I'd've never gotten into Megaman.  And sure, maybe ZX and ZXA's stuff was a tad gimmicky.  So what?  Doesn't make it a bad thing. 

And Starforce, while I agree 100% that it should've been much longer, was quite fun.  And because it was like the Battle Network series, I liked it that much more.  Megaman is still going pretty good, in my opinion and the gameplay has improved a lot.  I mean, just look at Mario.  (Personally, Mario isn't that good in my opinion, but whatever)  He's on so many types of games, so many different gameplays, and he's still going quite strong.  Mario started the same way Megaman did and the only reason, to me, that Mario is going better right now is because NoA/J is slightly smarter then CoA/J. 

But yeah, I'm probably the only one on this site who thinks that Starforce and ZX(ZXA and the Zero series) were the best out of all the Megaman games.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: ASR on 6 April 2008, 13:42:54
Even intelligent people who do like ZX and BN are keen to admit that their gameplay is inferior to the Classic and X series.

That's fact, not opinion. I promise you that.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Xero on 6 April 2008, 13:43:16
Battle Network and Zero were mistakes.....horrible mistakes.



Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: yhchaosbdon on 6 April 2008, 16:31:41
Even intelligent people who do like ZX and BN are keen to admit that their gameplay is inferior to the Classic and X series.

That's fact, not opinion. I promise you that.

You're calling me unintelligent?  Whatever, didn't know this was a flame thread.  And it isn't a fact either, because I know a lot of people who think ZX and BN are the better ones of the franchise.  Guess opinions are only good for flaming others.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: ChaosVortex on 6 April 2008, 17:36:35
Except he wasn't flaming you.

And I like ZX, but I admit it's not as good as X or Classic. Battle Network screwed around with the formula after BN3 was done.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: yhchaosbdon on 6 April 2008, 18:08:15
Battle Network screwed around with the formula after BN3 was done.

Eh, I guess I can agree with that.  Battle Network 3 still has the best gameplay and stuff.  Just wasn't as good once they started the TOTAL-FAIL that was Battle Network 4.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Mikero on 8 April 2008, 02:07:14
They really don't come to fansites, genius.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: ASR on 8 April 2008, 02:13:55
I have a secret.

I'm actually a Japanese boss who treats his employees horribly.

After reading kingtrickster's post, I feel that it is my duty to become a changed man and start treating my employees with respect! Starting this week, every Friday will be Casual Friday!

Thank you, kingtrickster! Sayonara!


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: ChaosVortex on 8 April 2008, 02:25:32
I was so going to do something like that, but Mike kinda already did the joke before, so it wouldn't be as funny.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: TheRedPriest on 8 April 2008, 23:11:46
Even intelligent people who do like ZX and BN are keen to admit that their gameplay is inferior to the Classic and X series.

That's fact, not opinion. I promise you that.

Correct.  You get 10 Wily Fun Bux.

Battle Network screwed around with the formula after BN3 was done.

Eh, I guess I can agree with that.  Battle Network 3 still has the best gameplay and stuff.  Just wasn't as good once they started the TOTAL-FAIL that was Battle Network 4.

Correct.  You get 10 Wily Fun Bux.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: ASR on 9 April 2008, 00:31:03
It doesn't feel as special now that he got some, too.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: preventerWIND on 9 April 2008, 00:47:32
If he doesn't last long can I have his funbux? Oh please please please! D:


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: TheRedPriest on 9 April 2008, 15:41:10
Wily Fun Bux are void if they're covered in blood...


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: ASR on 10 April 2008, 02:40:44
Well, #####.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Dizzi on 10 May 2008, 18:30:41
they need to bring back the zero series

he got blown to shreds once, he can do it again


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Mikero on 16 May 2008, 06:16:55
He got blown to shreds once?


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: TheRedPriest on 16 May 2008, 16:23:51
He got blown more than that from Iris LOLOLOLOLOLZ

But seriously, go die in a fire.  Not you Mike, Dizzy.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: ASR on 16 May 2008, 16:26:20
You, too, Dizzi.

Not a spelling correction, Rez, just don't want the poor lad to get confused and think he's off the hook.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Fatso on 16 May 2008, 18:27:39
He got blown to shreds once?
Well, the first time doesn't really count because he split into three neat fragments.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: preventerWIND on 16 May 2008, 22:36:07
His corpse in X5 looked the same as the corpse in X1. He may die a lot, but he's lost his style.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: NovaMan XP on 16 May 2008, 22:41:47
I don't think he had a hole in his chest in X1. And he definitely had both his arms in X1.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: preventerWIND on 16 May 2008, 22:51:22
yeah but his legs were blown to bits. OLD.

Also, I don't remember seeing both arms on Zero.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: NovaMan XP on 16 May 2008, 23:08:36
Well, he at least did in MHX... but I don't know if that counts. It's kinda hard to check if his other half is there in his sprite.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: preventerWIND on 16 May 2008, 23:22:58
Who cares he's dead now.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Dizzi on 17 May 2008, 02:24:03
i have a feeling i was insulted because MMZ is awesome


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: preventerWIND on 17 May 2008, 02:26:25
I wouldn't go as far as calling it "awesome".


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Dizzi on 17 May 2008, 02:29:33
Well it was better than the horrid crap that was battle network and the terrible storyline that was ZXA


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: preventerWIND on 17 May 2008, 02:31:01
IMHO it was better than BN hands down, but the only reason ZX sucked was because Zero sucked, it screwed up the storyline and thus screwing up ZX's storyline EXTREMELY!

EXTREMELY  >:(


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Dizzi on 17 May 2008, 02:32:58
I actually thought MMZ's storylines were pretty cool

well, then the jumped the shark on MMZ3 with ANOTHER Copy X and then... yes it sucked


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: preventerWIND on 17 May 2008, 02:34:45
I thought that was actually good, bringing back copy X. But the Dark Elf and the whole Elf thing in general was something to frown upon. It's also because of the Zero series that we don't know WHEN ZERO GOES TO SLEEP OR WAKES UP GODAMNIT #####. And because of all that, we have Axl.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Dizzi on 17 May 2008, 02:37:10
meh, i kinda preffered zero 2

i was like HOLY #####ING #####!!!

ELPIZOS A #####ING GUY!


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: preventerWIND on 17 May 2008, 02:40:57
Yeah, Zero 2 is definitely my favorite of the series. But I was more surprised at the end when he transformed into that butterfly and screamed.. since I had it hooked up to a pair of large speakers.. I nearly jumped out of my seat.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Dizzi on 17 May 2008, 02:42:07
wait

ZXE

model E...

Model Elpizo?


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: preventerWIND on 17 May 2008, 02:42:59
No.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: NovaMan XP on 17 May 2008, 02:43:04
IMHO it was better than BN hands down, but the only reason ZX sucked was because Zero sucked, it screwed up the storyline and thus screwing up ZX's storyline EXTREMELY!

EXTREMELY  >:(

No it's Extremus.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Dizzi on 17 May 2008, 02:44:41
dear god i hope not


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Friggit Deathblade on 17 May 2008, 02:52:51
... Model E would be terrible to see. And what after that? A model after Dark/Mother Elf?


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Dizzi on 17 May 2008, 02:54:04
again, if capcom did so... i would dispatch an assasin on them

just like a did on Masahiro Sakurai when he delayed brawl


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: preventerWIND on 17 May 2008, 02:56:40
just like a did on Masahiro Sakurai when he delayed brawl

They didn't do a very good job, did they?


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Friggit Deathblade on 17 May 2008, 02:58:25
True, Sonic was accepted into Brawl; so, that wasn't a exactly a job well done. Perhaps you should order a different assassin to get the first for failing?


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Dizzi on 17 May 2008, 02:58:43
nay, i still think the wi-fi was a half-assed 5 minute effort


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Friggit Deathblade on 17 May 2008, 02:59:34
Maybe. If I remember correctly, wasn't Nintendo planning to charge people to use the Wii online?


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Dizzi on 17 May 2008, 03:00:18
yes

ill need another assasin if that is what it comes down to...


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: preventerWIND on 17 May 2008, 03:01:24
ill need another assasin if that is what it comes down to...

Call Shelly De Killer.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Dizzi on 17 May 2008, 03:04:06
nah i find you can hire a homeless guy and give him a rifle for a fraction of the cost


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Friggit Deathblade on 17 May 2008, 03:07:03
Or do it yourself, that way you can brag about it.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Dizzi on 17 May 2008, 03:17:51
yeah... but theres still that factor of getting caught...

and the homeless man would be apprehended and put in jain where he wont starve


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Fatso on 17 May 2008, 04:21:59
Or jail, where he wouldn't starve either.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Friggit Deathblade on 17 May 2008, 04:23:22
But that presents the risk of disease. At least its free. Meals in there cost about 19 cents.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Fatso on 17 May 2008, 04:23:57
Wait, are we talking about jain or jail here?


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Friggit Deathblade on 17 May 2008, 04:26:34
Uh, uhm.... Look a distraction! *points to TheRedPriest, runs toward a safehouse*


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Dizzi on 17 May 2008, 04:41:37
Jail JAIL

damn typo


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: ChaosVortex on 17 May 2008, 05:21:53
Model E? That guy from Zero 2?

First Axl and now him?

Excuse me, I'd like to make this order "To Go". Yes. I'd like one loaded gun, aimed at my head, no delays on the trigger please.

WITH A SIDE OF DEATH.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Mikero on 17 May 2008, 07:23:31
Super size it for 29ยข?

His corpse in X5 looked the same as the corpse in X1. He may die a lot, but he's lost his style.

Dying is so suburban and played anyway. Sooooooo played.

yeah... but theres still that factor of getting caught...

and the homeless man would be apprehended and put in jain where he wont starve

The people you target live in other countries. He/you could just get deported and tried in your own country, so there are ways to escape.



Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Botba on 1 August 2009, 03:06:15
you should know, even one of the minigames in ZXA are like the first capcom game ever created, but its better than the first game


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Mikero on 1 August 2009, 06:38:52
And what, pray tell, is the first Capcom game ever created like?


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: NovaMan XP on 1 August 2009, 17:01:46
He's referring to the 8-bit minigame that plays a BIT like the NES Mega Man games... which aren't Capcom's first games.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: ChaosVortex on 1 August 2009, 17:24:55
The minigames in ZXA played like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKanUK6hNdU)?


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Jwhude on 18 October 2009, 23:47:17
If they stop ZX megaman is ruined.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: ChaosVortex on 18 October 2009, 23:56:03
As much as I like ZX just a tiny bit, I disagree STRONGLY.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: NovaMan XP on 19 October 2009, 04:36:00
That was a good laugh there.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: TheRedPriest on 28 October 2009, 13:15:27
If they stop ZX megaman is ruined.

Troll harder please.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: TheOnly on 28 October 2009, 20:03:31
Jajjajaajaja!

That made my day.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: ChaosVortex on 29 October 2009, 05:40:40
I mean... ZX. Of all the series to pick, he chose that one.

Seriously, you'd have better luck saying that about Starforce.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Fatso on 29 October 2009, 06:04:01
No.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: TheOnly on 29 October 2009, 20:03:00
Well, if all the fan boys somehow died from the swine flu then MAYBE.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Mikero on 31 October 2009, 00:50:40
Oh my God it's just a #####ing flu.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: TheOnly on 31 October 2009, 01:26:22
I know its JUST a flu, people like to over exagerate, it seems to scare people for some reason, HELLL why not use the damn word.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Mikero on 31 October 2009, 02:13:05
Oh my God, one cannot "over exaggerate".

Now I'm just playing games (with your heart).


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: TheOnly on 31 October 2009, 03:00:17
Oh, sounds fun.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: preventerWIND on 31 October 2009, 04:33:07
You're a cruel one, Michael Collymore.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Winged Warrior on 15 December 2009, 01:25:55
Okay guys, Check it.

 I CAME UP WITH AN IDEA FOR MMZXAZ (MMZX3/MMZXA2)!

... Ceil's great great great grand child happens to find Zero from MMZ. He gets the ZX Metal and transforms into axl.

With the help of BATTLECHIPS, You can help Zexl defeat fearsome foes such as SLUSH PANDA, HOT LARVA, AND EMBOSSED OTTER as he makes his way to stop the dreaded Dr. Albert Well, An misunderstood evil scientist Hellbent on not letting the series die!

It's the game Every kid (who hasn't experienced the classic games) will be begging for! Available holiday season 2010.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: TheRedPriest on 15 December 2009, 15:56:44
... that's not even so stupid it's funny.  It's just stupid.  Stop eating lead paint.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Abominator on 15 December 2009, 20:50:29
Please call the lead character Zexl.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Winged Warrior on 17 December 2009, 01:00:36
I aim to please.


Title: Re: Looks like ZX is done for
Post by: Mikero on 21 December 2009, 09:39:35
The worst part is you'd be the first in line to draw the characters #####ing.