Charlie was/is the only character I really like/liked.

This episode is the one where I guess it's the first one with Ben since he just introduced himself to Locke with some other name and said he was from Minnesota and crashed on the island "just. like. you."

Meh.

Yeah. It wasn't good but it was REALLY entertaining. Like I actually would love to watch it right now.

For free only, though. It isn't good.

I'm actually jealous because I love that album (well I love all their albums) and it would be cool to have that first time experience with it again.

Plus, you get to check out Indestructible later. And it's also quite good.

That was nothing I could do more about almost anything.

I'm watching a Lost rerun right now.
Jealous?

Yeah really.

Although apparently as far as dance movies go, Step Up was OK. So who knows.

Kalamazoo? That place is a ZOO!

I hope it's as good as Never Back Down!

HEROES

Contains spoilers.
[spoiler]5:18:24 PM Robbie: so how bout them heroes?
5:18:32 PM m·c·COLLYMORE ☠: Mehful
5:26:10 PM Robbie: why is everyone so jaded
5:27:20 PM m·c·COLLYMORE ☠: That episode wasn't really entertaining or anything, and was obvious Hiro was a kid right away, which makes it obvious that he's a kid later on in the future where he thinks Ando betrayed him, who clearly didn't but Hiro doesn't understand because he's 10.
5:27:38 PM m·c·COLLYMORE ☠: Only Parkman's stuff, again, was really any good.
5:28:17 PM Robbie: yeah that 3rd part of the formula thing was really lame
5:28:26 PM m·c·COLLYMORE ☠: Yeah
5:28:52 PM m·c·COLLYMORE ☠: Catalyst being a person sounds pretty garbage too.
5:28:53 PM Robbie: and nathan/nikki v.2 shouldn't even be on the show anymore
5:29:05 PM Robbie: they aren't so useful
5:29:28 PM m·c·COLLYMORE ☠: I don't really mind since they aren't doing anything either way. They're not on for long, so it's not like they're brining the show down.
5:29:40 PM m·c·COLLYMORE ☠: It's just been written sloppily lately.
5:30:08 PM Robbie: last week was way more interesting
5:30:11 PM Robbie: because it DIDN
5:30:18 PM Robbie: 'T deal with the current plot
5:32:36 PM m·c·COLLYMORE ☠: Yeah
5:32:56 PM m·c·COLLYMORE ☠: I just hope more people don't end up related.
5:33:17 PM Robbie: daphne is still a mystery
5:33:37 PM m·c·COLLYMORE ☠: Yeah
5:33:45 PM m·c·COLLYMORE ☠: Should stay that way
5:34:04 PM m·c·COLLYMORE ☠: I still like the show but this season I only really care about Terminator and House.
5:34:27 PM Robbie: i don't watch any other shows
5:34:34 PM Robbie: i pretty much have to make time to watch heroes
5:34:41 PM m·c·COLLYMORE ☠: Yeah
5:34:46 PM m·c·COLLYMORE ☠: You HAVE to love it![/spoiler]


TERMINATOR
If Fatso is talking about Terminator (The Sarah Connor Chronicles or otherwise) he is actually crazy. I know a lot of Terminator ##### and I'm about to school ya.

-First of all, casting. The obvious casting to talk about is Sarah Connor. There's two philosophies I accept on this. The first one, which seems to have main following, is that she doesn't look enough like Sarah Connor in T2; Hard. As. #####.

I personally don't belong to the this camp. The other side is that she looks right for the story. Or at least the start. The show doesn't start off right after the events of T2 at all, there's been a lot of time since then (~10 years), and Sarah and John have sort of settled down while remaining fugitives. 1997 has passed without incident so while they aren't complacent they are under a general impression that Judgement Day won't be happening. I'm not going to get too much into what's happened in the decade between T2 and TSCC, but basically you can assume there wasn't this need for a ridicu-tough bod on this woman. Her actual character however is still pretty tough.

Side note: This is TV and thus she has to be better looking than in the last movie. And I find the woman playing Sarah really, really, hot at times (especially in the "The Mother Of All Destiny" promo image from last year, which is my wallpaper at work... Ahem). She also hasn't been routinely abused in a #####ing mental institution lately either. So come on.

John Connor actually has the best casting in the show and possibly all of the franchise if you look at it the right way. As a sidebar, if anyone else was playing him they probably have him look way too much like a total pussbag. Anyway literally JUST before I started watching the show I watched the three Terminator movies online, and then watched the show's episodes online as well (was doing huge reading projects where I literally was up 24/7 at my table working). One thing I immediately noticed about the show is that John not only looks like the perfect half-way between the John Connor in T2 and the--uhm--"John Connor" in T3 but he actually has faint resemblance to the guy who played Kyle Reese in the original Terminator movie.

Speaking of which, they casted well for him (he's seen once or twice in memories of the future. It's not as convoluted as it sounds) in the show.

The only other real casting thing (since almost everyone else is new characters anyway other than a few T2 characters that show up a bit) would be Summer Glau as Cameron. But that's just a stupid argument because while yes she is a Terminator is does NOT mean she can't be jail bait too. This was the reason she almost didn't audition for the role, as she thought it was for icy blond types a la T3. The idea that she wouldn't look threatening is probably the smartest innovation Skynet has made since the T-1000.

Enough of casting. Although I should mention I think Brian Austin Green is great in it, and instead of seeing David from the original 90210 in Terminator, I see his Terminator character in old 90210 reruns.



-Now, as for how much the show is or is not Terminator. Well, it all is. It's more Terminator than Metroid Prime is Metroid, obviously. It's more Terminator than T3 was that's for SURE and I can really argue it. As far as mythos, the show actually follows the damn POINT of the Terminator series quoted like as if from God to Mary to Jesus to God and back again, the message John Connor (Jesus) of the future sent along with Kyle Reese (God) for Sarah Connor; "The future is not set". Also, the show keeps the tech-noir (a combination of cyberpunk, film noir, and sci-fi coined by James Cameron in "The Terminator", another example of tech-noir is "Blade Runner") feel of the first two as much as it can with the voiceover diary (Chronicles lol) bits that Sarah Connor has.

T3 took a dump on both those concepts by literally such things as "the future was going to happen either way" and having John do the voice over diary stuff, which makes sense, but sounds like ##### (a writing flaw).

Anyway, show content contains a lot of the actual stuff from the movies, and has pretty Terminatorly action at parts, though it is primarily a character driven drama. Over arching stories aside, episodes often have to do with ensuring that Judgment Day doesn't happen by elminating all traces of Terminators (who, since the Connors have re-blipped on the grid I suppose, have been coming back to kill John as well as perform other missions), namely the hand and chip Cyberdyne may one day use to create what will lead to Skynet.

As of season 2, episodes can also deal with ensuring the safety of people who will help John in the future resistance in a notable way, eliminating people who, whether indirectly or with intent, help to create Skynet and/or help Skynet in the future, as well as stopping Terminators with specific missions such as securing a compound or resource for Skynet to use in the future. As well as the "holy ##### there's a #####ing Terminator after me run" stuff.


As for actual quality, well I personally love the show and it's one of the only two (the other is House) shows I care about right now. However, I can see why some people say it's not all that. It can move a bit slowly. The pilot episode has a very Terminator feel in the run-for-your-life aspect, but is kind of bland. The rest of the show is more about the characters and the whole saga than that. If you're versed in Terminator well enough (which means actually knowing what the point is and how it works, which isn't hard to pick up by actually paying attention to the story of the movies) then it's probably more rewarding than if you don't know what this is. It probably helps that I'm a big fan of the first two movies. Still, the worst reviews I've heard of it were "It's OK" so it's at least worth checking it out and see for yourself. Reminder: The pilot/first episode isn't really the flow of the show.




Now then. I'm gonna get more nerdly here. Having no opinion on T4 is what clues me into some FAT kid here not knowing what he's talking about when he talks Terminator. Seems you either like the idea or you hate it, usually. Most people I've met that like the idea don't really know Terminator either but... Well I'm against the whole idea of T4, mainly because it takes place during a war that shouldn't even happen. It's not really T4's fault though, it's T3's. I've said a couple things wrong with T3 earlier, but let me add some more. The Arnold Terminator in it is reprogrammed by John's future wife, no problem there, to stop the T-X (which is lame) from killing her and other future resistance generals, no problem yet, but the stupid #####ing thing about that is that Arnold mentions that he was reprogrammed after he killed John in the future.

RRRREN. Sorry. Nope, wrong. I don't care if John is dead, he's not my boyfriend (YET), but this contradicts a major thing. The entire point of having the final battle of the war fought in our past, is that by the time that Skynet sends back the Terminator from the first movie and the T-1000 (both were sent at the same time, but to different time periods), the resistance already breached Skynet's defences making killing John in the future (or Skynet's present) completely useless; The war has essentially already been won when the Terminators are sent back in time. Also the idea that John's sentiment for the line of Terminators that look Arnold, based on his experiences in T2, is the reason that he was duped and killed by one is some of the poorest writing I could imagine in a Terminator movie.

There's a lot more stupidness in T3 that ruins the whole idea of the thing, and thank John Connor that the show basically says in the first ten minutes "##### the third movie", but I'm gonna move on to my problem with the fourth movie. And it's simple. It shouldn't exist. Since the whole point of Terminator was that you could change the future, that meant that the whole point was also stopping this from happening. The third movie went up to that concept, grabbed it by the balls and whispered "##### you, I hate you, go eat a dick you theme" ever so sweetly in it's ear. The story fourth movie could be entertaining, it could even be good, but it's irrelevant because the war should even happen. It is, without attempt to even hide it, a complete cash grab.

Whatever. I like the show a lot.
I really liked this week and last week's episodes a lot.

It wasn't me.

(Honey came in and she caught me red handed...)

Man ##### Agrajag.

Mike Collymore.

That's not how reincarnation works. Trust me. I've killed the same monk a LOT.

It's sad because I should still be able to. You never knew in the first place!

Right, as if you Jewsians weren't going to complain either way!

HOOAH!

It's sad that I can only read 2/3 of that.

I don't want to hear about you watching your goatse.

Same deal.

I still haven't bothered to watch new South Parks.

I have a steam powered computer.
CHOO!

Looks like a flat ass with a turd lodged in it though.
(Not really.)

Because.

GAME TIME.

Rules of the game:

- Choose a singer/band/group
- Answer using ONLY titles of songs by that singer/band/group

So then. Rage Against The Machine. I allowed a couple covers off of Renegades.

1. Are you male or female?
-Street Fighting Man

2. Describe yourself.
-Calm Like A Bomb
-Microphone Fiend
-Voice Of The Voiceless
-Born Of A Broken Man

3. What do people feel when they're around you?
-People Of The Sun
-Roll Right

4. How would you describe your previous relationship?
-Township Rebellion

5. Describe your current relationship.
-Year Of Tha Boomerang

6. Where would you want to be now?
-Down Rodeo

7. How do you feel about love?
-Tire Me

8. What's your life like?
-War Within A Breath

9. What would you ask for if you had only one wish?
-Freedom

10. Say something wise.
-Settle For Nothing
-Take The Power Back

I got the game off DA, and you're supposed to tag 6 people when you're done. I'm gonna start it on Facebook eventually (gonna wait because of stupid things) so I'll tag all of you that I have when I do I guess.

I WIN, WINDUMB!

Two albums ago much?!

Good cover. I find it so weird to hear the original song now.

Actually, It's Ninja. It's already plural!

Twas all a trap it was.

A] In English it's "ninjas", commie.
B] It's ninja*
C] It's ninjas**

He gets a bad rap 'cause his movies aren't the same style as they used to be and that's not cool. I saw the start of Click on TV, it was too late to actually watch because I had work in the morning but I liked what I saw. Had actual laughs too (but I WAS tired).

I always think his movies look good but for whatever reason I never see 'em.

See you in a week Costa. If you keep that avatar when you're back then like you smellish.

GOD#####INGDAMNIT#####!!!

MY FEET ARE ITCHY AS #####, THEY WON'T STOP ITCHIN', AND THIS GODDAMN LOTION DOES ##### ALL!

Jake had his way with your feet and now they're having his babies.
The fungus among us!

You guys make Christmas lists?

HA!

Fanks bros!

No chain between the sticks?

They are not nun-chucks.

They are rattan, used in Eskrima (alt. Escrima, esgrima), a Filipino martial art that is mostly based on handheld weapons, strikes and changing ranges. So small blades, sticks, sometimes shields, nunchakku, and whips. Actual combat changes immensely when the distance between two fighters changes. The most common weapon in Eskrima is the rattan stick.

Otherwise there would be two cylinders in each hand.

That's beautiful, man. Where did the original picture of... wherever... come from?

Composite. I created a Mikeropia city by combining skylines from Chicago, Seattle, LA (Santa Monica Pier), Sydney (Australia, not boring Nova Scotia), Sao Paulo (Octavio Frias de Oliveira bridge) and I think a bit of New York City but it might have gotten taken out.

Based off a killer Nightwing image.

: Fatso  16 November 2008, 20:26:35

Ports are bad.

BIGOT!

Oph. There's one right behind me, isn't there?
O_O

Yeah I went for stylized with these, I didn't have a model around or anything and haven't felt like going to life drawing since April so trying to go with realism wouldn't have worked out anyway. This was just a bit of practice. I think it was barely 15-30 minutes work, really.

And no, I'm not gonna Van Gogh my Munny, Sano.

---

It's a groovy night and I can show you how to use it.

Yeah that baby in full on rain gear and the blow up doll with no nipples is totally chilling me bones.

:-S*... #####face.

WHAAT?!
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Yours was obvious enough. Mine could be misleading.

Wrong*... Broseph.

Ninjas* buuuuuuuuudy.

See, I posted before you so actually I was faster, but I reconsidered 'cause um i hat u.

Also, ROBOTS* buuuuuuuuuddy.

Yeah it does you Aryan #####!

YEAH! TAKE THAT THIRD REICH!

I was thinking of posting that too.

I hate when people date people with the same look as them, so Wind just can't be with Curly there! It's so dumb.

You need "The Metal" in there.

I'm not in a "current relationship" but I considered something close to one, that basically recently ended, for it.

I'm totally shaving tomorrow. I might shave my whole beard, because I found a grey hair or two in it and I'm not sure if it's stress or just natural.

It can't be Annie because that would be weird.

Wouldn't work better in the music thread?

It's more about your life than it's about music so I put right thurr.

It's interesting how it tends to work out, like everything in mine is actually correct and I could potentially explain it. When I started doing it, I didn't even think it would work out. The harder part is keeping your answers just being the title of the song and not it's meaning.

So awesome that Rage has the song "Down Rodeo", which is about L.A. (Rodeo Drive, not about rodeos with clowns and cowpeople and #####) which is exactly where I want to be right now.

I liked the game where I played as Abe.

SPOILLLERRRRRRRSSSSS!!!

HK-47 is a horrible name.

GAME TIME.

Rules of the game:

- Choose a singer/band/group
- Answer using ONLY titles of songs by that singer/band/group

So then. Rage Against The Machine. I allowed a couple covers off of Renegades.

1. Are you male or female?
-Street Fighting Man

2. Describe yourself.
-Calm Like A Bomb
-Microphone Fiend
-Voice Of The Voiceless
-Born Of A Broken Man

3. What do people feel when they're around you?
-People Of The Sun
-Roll Right

4. How would you describe your previous relationship?
-Township Rebellion

5. Describe your current relationship.
-Year Of Tha Boomerang

6. Where would you want to be now?
-Down Rodeo

7. How do you feel about love?
-Tire Me

8. What's your life like?
-War Within A Breath

9. What would you ask for if you had only one wish?
-Freedom

10. Say something wise.
-Settle For Nothing
-Take The Power Back

Curly should be someone else.

For what?