Our internet infrastructure is ##### pretty much everywhere in this country, and even if it wasn't, ISPs overcharge the ##### out of what they have now.  With internet fast and reliable enough to do that kind of game cloud streaming no one could afford the internet bills even if it was up to snuff.  So really, it #####s everyone.

Or arranged to hell so the actual song is virtually unrecognizable or the tempo and tone changed to extreme levels.  The art and music in this game are god awful.

Don't forget collectable eechi posters of all the sexy reploid womenz now hidden in each stage!  Can you get an SS+ rank to get them?  No.  No one can.

It wasn't a sequel or reboot of Mega Man, it was a new thing using the existing characters, but not done horribly (like the latest cartoon).  BN, at least in the beginning, was how you do it.

: LCrazy11  31 August 2019, 10:21:20

i want a console port, they could probably make that work

Not if it's a direct port.  It needs to have a graphics and control overhaul.

Control overhaul won't fix it, it's been designed as a mobile game with all the tropes and fail that mobile game design uses.  I don't recall if it's been revealed if it's free to play, but if it is, it's DoA.  Cool downs.  Microtransactions.  These games are built around being BARELY playable to get you to buy your way to more playing or making EVERYTHING have to be bought (weapons, costumes, colors, etc).  The game itself was ##### before it was even announced.  The ONLY good thing we'll get out of it is Rico, some nice 3D models, and maybe some remixes.

Were there any new characters apart from Rico though?

Good... continue to do so.

BN2 is one of the best Mega Man games.  1 isn't too bad, but rough.  3 is still good, but tries to do too much and isn't as good as 2, but I'd say it's a bit better than 1.  Then 4, 5 and 6 ##### their pants to various degrees, all being bad games.

Well, now I have to buy that JUST to get a physical copy of MMLC2 for Switch.

It still has mobile design, so it wouldn't matter if it was on a console.

But it IS nice to see some X8 characters in a normal X style and not that horrid X8 style.

Also Rico a cute.

I'm a collector.  I have lots of stuff I hate.

Dabbling in Collection of Mana now that it's out retail.  Also picked up Metal Wolf Chaos on PS4.

I can barely make out any melody at all in that mess.  It's so #####ing heavily arranged it loses the song almost entirely.  It's the worst kind of remix.  Though it does indeed sound like it used the Smash sound font.

If it's retail I'll get it, but it remain to be seen how retail the "retail" release will be.  Capcom loves to make between 50 to 66% of their "retail" releases digital, at least on Switch.  But I'm a bit of a completionist so I'll get it, if it's all on cart/disc.  Even though I hate Zero/ZX a fair amount.

I think 2 was the sweet spot as well.  4, 5 and 6 can get #####ed.

No, it was a site thing.  I think Abe got it taken care of.  He's busy with the annual Haggis Harvest this time of the year so he was probably a bit busy and didn't notice.

X8's designs and style already looked like ##### and were a problem.  And I suspect if we get an X9 it's going to be a glorious cluster ##### of horrid plot, Axl, evolving toward Zero style designs, and a horribly unfocused 3 playable character garbage stage design, DLC cancer fest.  Of course I'm being a bit optimistic there.  It will probably be much worse.  Capcom has no benefit of the doubt or credibility with X at this point.

We'll never know.  Thank God.

You can't make an omelette without breaking all the eggs.

Are you high?  Those aren't redraws, they're scans of the original art.  It looks amazing.  It's clean and crisp.  They didn't add frames from the original sprites either.  No one expected them to.  It's the original game with the actual original art the sprites were made from.  It's hard to believe we're looking at the same thing.

The HD Trilogy on Switch is literally almost perfect outside of outright remaking the games in AA6's engine with 3D models and updating the game play and cases to fit them better, which I wouldn't mind if they did.  But for an HD port, it's pretty much perfect.

Apollo Justice also already had higher resolution art to begin with.  I'm not surprised it looks better, because they have better source material to work with.  I hope we get a Switch port of that as well, with AA5 and 6 added in for a 2nd Trilogy.  Be nice to own a retail version of them, or own them at all since I didn't buy them because they were digital only and ##### Capcom for doing ##### like that.

And?  Netflix is still ##### compared to buying and owning material.  Because people have largely thrown away their rights doesn't make it good.  The only difference to movies/music vs games is you can record a program and play it back and not lose anything for the experience.  Streaming games makes it impossible to actually PLAY it later.  All you could do is record a play through and watch it later passively.

We need laws to protect us as consumers.  We should be entitled to a local copy of anything we buy, and that should be a MANDATORY option, not just stream only.  It's the only way to protect consumers, and more importantly preserve media.

I'll pick it up eventually.  Most people don't make stages that look like an actual Mario stage though.  It's all over the place with puzzle stages or physics #####.  Neat concepts, but not Mario stages you'd ever see in an actual Mario game, and that's really the biggest thing that turns me off on it.

Some styles just don't work well with some series.  Add in an awful redesign on top of a style change and you have a recipe for disaster.

Oh, well, yeah.  Looks like a bit of a time skip.  INTO THE EMO YEARS SO EDGY!!

Red and Blue had different Net Navis in them.  I think Roll was only in Blue, and Shadow Man was only in Blue or something like that, and I'm pretty sure there was no trading or moving from one to the other.  That's why Red was generally considered better, because it had the better Navis in it.

ah the old sprites, a thing that i have to say, look good but i prefer the smaller, more colourful new sprites

The new #####ty smaller less detailed sprites were one of the worst parts of 4-6 though.

4, 5 and 6 were all awful.  Though 4 is probably the worst of the worst.  6 is probably the least offensive of the 2nd trilogy, but it's still pretty #####.  None of them come close to how good the first 3 were.

I'm the most qualified person here regardless of who votes.

2 is better than 3.  3 has some nice quality of life features, but 2 has much better Program Advances, and the best undernet.

I do not like how it merges the posts into one and then dumps the attachments all at the bottom.  Abe, fix that!

And God, I'm still upset how ##### Battle Network went.  Oh well, at least the first 3 games are great.

No one wants a subscription game service.  We want an eshop where we can buy games and not have to #####ing worry about ANOTHER #####ing monthly subscription fee holding our content hostage.

Save often is an axiom you should take to heart.

This is a good reminder why I never finished the game.

It's too hard to make out much of it.  It was hard to pick up the melody much so I think it may be a heavily arranged version of it, which I don't usually like.

We are Mega Man.

Now that I may be interested in.

I think I recall who you fight in the tournament is random, and to get all the souls you had to replay the game like 3 times.  I was aiming for Roll Soul, but didn't get her and the game is just such an awful slog (and just a really REALLY crappy game) that I didn't play much past that part.  I know I didn't finish the game, that's for sure.

Nintendo had a loaded E3 this year.  The best by far, no doubt.

No, just use it from the get go.

None of them look good.  X looks ABYSMAL though.  I love Iris, but this style does her no favors either.  The designs are just #####ing ugly as sin.

Watch gameplay of it.  It's BN, but worse and needlessly changed to be different.

The sprite redos in 4 were awful.  Actually 4-6 are just not very good games.  I think I bought Red Sun back in the day, saw how ##### it was and never finished it.  Saw what 5 was, never got it.  Saw what 6 was, never got that.  No regrets.

Just beat Bloodstained Ritual of the Night on PS4.  Game is a 10/10 on it's merits/design/game play/music/atmosphere.  The game is hamstrung by only 2 things. 

First and foremost, no version of the game is really ready for prime time.  The game was clearly still not ready to ship.  It's had major updates and patches.  The Switch version seems to be literally almost unplayable.  PS4 has some glitches here and there and some jankey animations/transitions, but largely seems passable at this point.  These technical snafus insult an amazing game that deserves to be 100% polished in it's presentation and function.  None of it is typical "minor" things all games have.  These are serious systemic issues with how the game was built.  It does a disservice to the game.

Second, the 2.5D design choice.  This is also directly responsible for most of the issues in the first part, no doubt.  2D games never run or work well in 3D engines as they do in a true 2D environment from angles of platforms to collision and hit detection and clipping.  For what it ended up as, it doesn't look too bad visually, but you always wonder, just how much we're missing and how much better it would have looked in 2D.

I hope we get a rerelease of the game once all the patching is done and DLC releases.  Because of the degree of patches and fixes the game has across platforms, none of the physical versions are worth anything without massive downloads to fix them.  As such, we have a case of it's pretty much a digital download with most of the game on the disc to save you some time downloading the game.  That's not acceptable, and far from very minor updates that don't materially affect the game if you never (or are unable to) update.

Overall, this is EXACTLY the game we wanted.  It's pure SOTN Style Castlevania at it's BEST.  It's the best non Castlevania Metroidvania released since the DS trilogy of Castlevania games.  Amazing, amazing game.  If you have a PS4 I'd pick it up now.  Wait on Switch and 360 though as one is in an almost unplayable state and the other is waiting on patches to not break it.

They finally dish out money to commission new artwork for a project instead of reusing old art and THIS is the ##### we get?  That style is awful.  Not even all the new Iris art has me excited.  Don't know what it is, but looking like that I wouldn't touch it.

They ruined the combat of BN too with the 3D behind the back grid with less space than BN system they used.  BN had a really decent combat system.

Ah I see what you meant.  I'll be interested to play 3 as well even though I have a fan translation for it (I just haven't got to it yet).

Secret of Mana?  Yeah, it's a great RPG.  It has a few issues on hit detection, but otherwise it's amazing with an amazing 90s Square OST.

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I'm like 7 hours into  Bloodstained Ritual of the Night, and I LOVE it.  It's got a few little issues but it's pretty much exactly what I wanted (minus the 2.5D direction).  This is the polar opposite of MN9.  Everyone should pick up a copy of Bloodstained if they like Castlevania or Metroidvanias.  This might just be Iga's best game ever.

It took the best parts of Battle Network and made them worse.  Then added in ##### that was worse than BN to begin with.  It was inferior to BN in every way.

We Never Learn, One Punch Man season 2, looking forward to Dr. Stone.

Who are you again?