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Well, Capcom.  Nice move, nice move. (http://www.capcom-unity.com/devroom/blog/2010/10/10/vote_for_your_favorite_design_in_the_mega_man_legends_3_heroine_contest!)

Personally I prefer Kazushi Itou's design.  She looks pretty well like she fits.  The rabbit-looking one is cool as well, but Inafune's design smells of Zero... and that scares me a bit.

Problem is the decision here is being based on looks, when a lot more than that is on the line.  It's impossible to know if the choice is good without more information.

So, then... what's your pick, everyone?

These people look like Navi Operators more than Legends characters.

My vote would be for Shinsuke Komaki's design, followed by Ryuji Higurashi's.

It's obvious that Inafune is in love with Zero. >.>

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The most votes are going to the girl who, like I've implied, looks more like TomahawkMan.EXE's operator. 2nd goes to the girl who got my vote.

Keiji Inafune's has one of the lowest votes.

7% for Hayato Kaji and I'm 90% sure I'm the only male who voted for her.

Of course as you all know I haven't played Legends and I'm messing with your votes ahahaaaa!

7% for Hayato Kaji and I'm 90% sure I'm the only male who voted for her.

Nope, I voted for her too.

Do we really need a NEW heroin?  Tron and Roll are plenty.  Also, I really don't see the need for this, unless it's going toward some god awful multi player stuff.  I know that was mentioned somewhere as a possibility. 

That being said I think Ryuji Higurashi and Sensei Haruki Suetsugu have the best designs.  Toru Nakayama and his MMZ/ZX style can go out and ##### off.  Considering how much Inafune loves Legends, it's kind of sad his entry really doesn't look Legendy at all.

I like the ones with bellies.

I like Hideki Ishikawa's, but Sensei Haruki Suetsugu's is pretty good too, and seems like that's the one that'll win.

I like 12 year old girls and the ones with bellies seem like they might be 18 or something. Yuck.

No, YUM, you sick pedophile.

GROSS.

COUGHCOUGHPEDOJOHNCOUGH

Do we really need a NEW heroin?  Tron and Roll are plenty.  Also, I really don't see the need for this, unless it's going toward some god awful multi player stuff.  I know that was mentioned somewhere as a possibility. 

It's for the H.

Then all is forgiven.

Shinsuke Tomaki's is best and most Legendsy, then Kazushi Itou is 2nd best but a bit Zeroy.

I feel the same way about Shinsuke's entry. She looks like something I'd love to see in a Legends game, and not just that, I absolutely love her design the most.

Yeah, the other ones are too derivative and thrown together looking.

I also voted for Shinsuke Tomaki, for the same reasons stated above.  (I think it was the shoes I noticed first as being Legendsy...)

I have chosen Suetsugu.

Personal preference.

So...

Who do you guys think is winning on the Japan side?

They're going to combine both poll results to decide the winner as far as I know.

Hands down, I want Shinsuke in. I hope they vote for her. She's 2nd with just 5% behind.

I'm hoping she wins as well.

*coughbutiwantedhidekiishikawastowincough*

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Well, goods new everybody!

http://blog.daletto.net/dash3/archives/1337838.html

Apparently Shinsuke is currently leading in Japan.

Eh, that's dissappointing.  Hopefully the US vote will pull Sensei's design over the top.  Not big on 3 but it's better than several of the others.

I'm hoping the current number 2 wins it.

Shinsuke's design won.

Oh well, at least she's kind of a redhead.

At least it wasn't the one that reeked of Mega Man Zero!

Well, strike 1 against Legends 3.

Oh, boohoo to you. She isn't bad at all. I think she was the best out of them all, so I like the choice.

Granted this still doesn't tell us if the game will be great or anything. You can put one of your own favorite characters in a game and have it come out terrible.

According to what source?

This source. (http://www.themmnetwork.com/2010/10/29/here-is-your-mega-man-legends-3-heroine-komaki/)

Now she just needs a pretty name.

I vote for Olga.

logic error

Well, she does look legend-like, unlike many of those designs, so it's a pretty cool choice.

Now she just needs a pretty name.

I vote for Olga.

Name is Lily.
I thought we knew that already?  Can't find a source article.

Lily's good.

Meet 'Aero' 'Sephira'.

It's almost like they did nothing at all nothing at all nothing at all...

Seriously, they didn't do jack of ##### to that design.  I was expecting them to just start with it and actually work on it to make it look like it came out of Legends, not Star Force.  This is just a kick to the #####ing balls.  With fans selecting ##### this stupid, it won't be long before we get cameos by Bass and Zero because HERP DERP WE WANT IT LOL.

I liked the old design a lot more. Her hair was a lot longer, better detail, better eyes, and I HATE how that scarf now is covering her chin. Other than that, everything else is alright I guess.

Besides the "Star Force" vibe I get from this character now. That's plain stupid.

They took a good design and ran it into the dirt. For me, that's strike one for Legends 3.

Why is her belt unbuckled?

I liked the old design a lot more. Her hair was a lot longer, better detail, better eyes, and I HATE how that scarf now is covering her chin. Other than that, everything else is alright I guess.

Besides the "Star Force" vibe I get from this character now. That's plain stupid.

They took a good design and ran it into the dirt. For me, that's strike one for Legends 3.

Are you blind or stupid?  She looked Star Forcey from the get go.  The sum total of her being "Legendified" was absolutely NOTHING.  The design is for all intents and purposes the same and it's still just as bad as it was when it won.

Why is her belt unbuckled?

Easy sex.

I don't see it. She was actually interesting looking on the previous design. Compare the two.

This new design has shorter hair, a bigger forehead, and just... she has a face that seems to say, "Dhurr let's wave battle!"

Seriously, what's with that scarf/hankerchief/bib?

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Looking at it, my major beef is the hair. That to me was her best quality, and they screwed that one up big time.

To me, it's the face that's just completely #####ed up.

...speaking of which...

(http://oi55.tinypic.com/20qalqd.jpg)

Not really digging the art so far either.

You guys are seriously the worst people.

Yeah, well you're a BUTT

AND BUTTS SMELL, HAHA TAKE THAT

This looks so out of place it hurts my eyes.

Thank you.

Roll and Tron look fine, but this new girl now looks like she's come from a different series to crossover. Her original look would have been better.

Oh well, maybe she won't look as goofy in the game.

I don't see it. She was actually interesting looking on the previous design. Compare the two.

I think you'd do well to compare the two.  The changes are all so minuscule it's rage inducing.  It's the exact same character.  To say that the laughably lazy tweeks they did to "Legendize" her change her in any minor, let alone major way is so off base it's silly.

And that pic with all 3 of them just illustrates how much that design just doesn't fit into Legends.
<edit> and to clarify, the before after makes no difference as she looks the exact same.  The winning design does not fit Legends style at all.  God only knows what kind of Bonne mech we'll get out of this.

See, the problem is that she was fine without any change to me. Sure, they changed some minor things I don't care about and that's fine and expected, but they didn't need to touch the hair and stuff.

And "Legendize". I know what you're trying to say, but let's be honest. They did NOT "Legendize" her at all. She reeks so much of Star Force design now, she most DEFINITELY feels out of place. At least with her previous design I got a bit of a ZX design feel (which feels more appropriate).

Maybe she won't look bad in game, but now my hopes for that are pretty much shot now.

She stuck out like a sore thumb from the start.  She still stands out like a sore thumb.  Your argument makes no sense.  At all.  The changes amount to no real changes at all.  There was no work to make her fit in the style of Legends at all because they kept the design exactly the same.  That is my main reason for being unhappy with her winning.  Yes, the design has no place in Legends, but they didn't do what they said they would do to the winner: fix that.  Looking at beta versions of character art you can see how they refine and work on them, but none of that happened to the winner.  They didn't take it as a starting place and direction to make a character native to the series, they just took what they had and made the hair a little smaller, moved up her kerchif and changed the pattern on her boots and arms.  She's still a Star Force character in a Legends game and looks it.

If you're new to this topic and tl;dr'd it?
Nobody likes the new character. She looks weird.

Complain however you want, but I liked the character regardless if she fit or not. They could change her design a little to make her fit and keep what about her is appealing, but obviously they didn't. In my opinion, they made it worse.

Weather or not you liked the design is irrelevant to the fact they made no substantative changes to it.  The fact you seem to think the superficial non changes they did make to it somehow ruin the "original" is also absurd because it's 99.99% the same.

More like 90%.

This is all why I didn't vote for her anyway!

Everyone's saying she has a Star Force vibe, but I keep thinking it's something I'd see in a Square Enix game. Not the art style specifically but the weird clothing. It's ##### like that. People just eat it up these days. They'd pick that design no matter what game it was for. I thought it was too weird for Legends, based on the other character designs that I'd seen.

Having looked at the follow-up picture and not seen the original in a little while, I do not see the difference. I doubt most people do.

This has been a classic case of "LET'S LISTEN TO THE GAMERS AND GIVE THEM WHAT THEY WANT" with mediocre results.

Doubt it'll affect the gameplay though.

More like 90%.

What was "changed"?  Hair, Legs, arms and bandanna.  Hair is the same shape and style only scaled down a little, it's still the same hair.  Legs and arms have the most minor changes to some folds and buckels and structure but cover the same area in the same way with the same look.  Bandanna is a little smaller and moved up ever so slightly covering the tip of her chin, it's so minimal it's just as worthless a "change" as any of the others.

The character is exactly the same as when she was submitted in any sense that matters.

I still think that the orange-haired girl was the most Legends-feeling of all of the characters.  Her outfit was simplistic enough, and her character design was exactly like something you'd seen in Legends 2.

I would know, I documented all of the unique NPC models once.

I think it's the overt complexity of the new girl that make her a failure in regards to meshing with the Legends universe.  Even in her original form, which is so similar I didn't notice there was anything different until someone noticed, she looks wrong.

I would have been OK with the Indian looking one with blue hair.
But this I just don't get.

You guys would be arguing like this no matter which design they'd chosen.

On most of them, yes.  But not the Indian Girl.  She had a nice Legends vibe to her.

I actually did think that one was an interesting choice, but I don't think she ever stood a chance.

I have no issue with this one. I thought all the designs were pretty good and I think it fits in pretty well. I'm just not too nitpicky when it comes to MegaMan anymore, I guess.

I loved that Indian chick.

Did you ever even play Legends, ASR?

Half of the first one, and ever since I've been looking for a used copy (at which point I would commandeer someone else's PS2/PS3.)

On most of them, yes.  But not the Indian Girl.  She had a nice Legends vibe to her.

omgracist asdfhkllkjkds; (even though I agree it was a winning design)

Wait, the character had an original design or something? Somebody fill me in. Anyway, I don't really see the problem with the broad, if she looks too weird--well, so does everyone else in the game. There's a monkey with a roll of toilet paper for a body for #####sake.

Every character in all three Legends games has a rather distinct, yet simplistic style to them.
Every character.  From Megaman down to the most common NPCs in the games.

This kid's too busy in terms of design, and there's just something off about her.
MAYBE there will be some explanation for this mess at some point.  Maybe she's from an island where all of the people dress like mentally retarded parrots.

You never know.

Honestly, if there wasn't a contest and she was a Legends character anyway I honestly doubt that most people would be complaining.

Anyway, I did prefer the Indian girl (although I preferred the girl with the Mettaur Cap more), Japan wanted a different character to be the design as well.

Despite Sensei leading the U.S poll, and Yoshikawa leading the Japanese poll, Komaki's design was second place on both polls. They tallied up the numbers from both polls and Komaki's design ended up being the victor by having the most out of the first two.

Which is pretty bullcrap, but I guess if both polls was one poll we'd get the same result anyway

Both polls WERE one, that was the point of merging them.
And no, I would probably still be complaining, damn it, especially if she were a main character still.

I was rooting for Rabbit girl.

"I see this blowing over and being just another one of those mysterious and ominous fallacies of gaming."

Well I was wrong. -1up
I'm ready to be crucified for my next statement. I don't see anything wrong with the character. I'm not THRILLED with the dcesign, but I don't see anything WRONG with it. Looing forward to the game too. I pray it's of the same quality the last two were.

Beating a dead horse but, my opinion will always remain the same.

The best quality was the hair (lengthwise).

They changed that.

I hate it.

Main thing for me is how the face of the original is all nice and then the final is all "look im so tough lol"

Yeah, that too. So mainly, it's the head portion I'm upset with.

Main thing for me is how the face of the original is all nice and then the final is all "look im so tough lol"

Facial expressions can be changed.

NOT LINDSAY LOHAN'S

Yes it can.
There's nothing a few swift kicks to the head won't solve.

I thought a hammer was the solution to all life's problems?

My feet are made out of hammers.  I have a two step solution to everything.

I imagine your mother was very promiscuous and enjoyed hardware stores..

She's a belt sander.