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This poll is dedicated to asking...WHICH BATTLE NETWORK GAME IS BEST?

A question that will arouse controversy and debate.

Well, i put every single option up there, including the versions of a specific BN game. So if you like Battle Network 3 as a whole, just click both BN3's.

Two votes per person. GO VOTE! 8) :) ;)

I'm going with 2, since it was better than 1 in most ways and didn't require constant program jiggery like the next batch.

I've never been able to finish any of them. I think I got far in 2, but 3 was my favorite.. so 3 for me

Also, is there a reason for having both versions of one game up there? I mean, Blue is exactly like white with something added..

you cannot hate Punk.

BN2 is my favorite. I don't feel like explaining why though... I'm sure it's obvious by now.

3's always been my favorite but I feel ridiculous choosing between White or Blue when they're the exact same game so, please, fix that.

Blue was superior to White in almost every way. I mean... Blue had FolderBack, the best damn chip ever, you'll never run out of chips with it. And then there was Punk... who gave you nothing.

I only played the first one and hated it so much I never played the others.
:)

3's always been my favorite but I feel ridiculous choosing between White or Blue when they're the exact same game so, please, fix that.

Hey if you actually read my first post it said you can pick 2 chocies! So just vote for both versions. God..

But why waste two votes on the same game?

Maybe I'd like to vote on a second one.

BN2 is next-favorite.

I don't want to pick just one version of 3, and it's not because I actually care, it's just because I'm picky and minorly-OCD about things like that. So don't get all pissed off, bro.

Heh heh im not getting pissed off. lol thats how i talk. GOT A PROBLEM FOOL!?!? jk..ehhe...yeah..

Heh, heh, I'm not getting pissed off. LOL, that's how I talk. GOT A PROBLEM, FOOL!?!? JK... ehhe... yeah...

Fixed.

The first comma you inserted is unnecessary.

I put commas where I would logically pause while speaking.
GRAMMAR IS SUBLIME TO ME

You would pause between the first and second 'heh?' That's no longer a laugh, nervous or otherwise.

You never heard a bad guy laugh, Fatso?

On various occasions throughout my gaming-and-moviegoing career. Never have I come across a guy who would laugh like 'heh, heh.'

It's a slow, meticulous laugh.

OK, I give up.
I misplaced a comma, so sue me.

It's a slow, meticulous laugh.

Imagine Ganondorf's laugh from Ocarina of Time, Fatso.

I should really go back and finish OoT. Surprisingly, though I quite like it, I haven't been able to scrape together the willpower to beat it.

I'm pretty sure I beat OoT in one looooooooong sitting.

I had just had an operation and my mom got it for me as a present, and I couldn't really move anyway. I remember just sitting on a bean-bag chair in pain but loving the game.

A fairly good childhood memory.

I'm pretty sure I beat OoT in one looooooooong sitting.

I beat the game in one sitting every year.

Only because I gotta respest one of the greatest games ever made.

I haven't played it since then, though I have that Collector's Edition Gamecube disc. So I could if I wanted to.

I get two votes? No hard decision there. BN2 and BN3Blue wipes the floor with them all.

Transmission and 4.5, for I have no good taste in games.

HELL NO.

CHIP CHALLENGE FTW.

...Actually, BCC really IS a good, but overlooked game. Goes nice with BN2 on a serious selection.

That's a commonly misplaced product.

It doesn't belong in the game section.

I voted for the first game of the series, when i enjoyed the idea of a net megaman. A simple story, and a new take on the characters. But same as any story, it got worse the longer it was around. so i liked the simple, first story the best.

BN4 and 5 got nothing. serves them right. It took me like 20years to get all 50 points in number 4. number 5...that...was....a disgrace. im not even going to talk or i'll punch something..(preferably fatso) jk and the reason i was in pink is because bn 4 & 5 are annoyingly homosexual (GAY)

I hated BN4 for two reasons.

1. The only "bosses" to fight were in the three tournaments. Dark Chip Syndicate Nebula had no syndicate.  Just two or three navis they flung around.
2. You had to play through the game three times to get the final soul, which you need to reach Bass.  And even then, souls sucked.  Everything sucked.

And we all know why we hate BN5. God forbid I say those two damned words.

I'm with CV for my votes.

Nebula sucked. Their leader was LaserMan, and one of their goons was ShadeMan.

... that's it. What a syndicate.

Shade Man could've been cool, but he had to be some sort of "Dark chip" plot added in the story.

I hated Laser Man. What a dumb name. Dumb character design. When I saw the sprite, he looked fan-made.

It's because he was. He was one of those contest winner navis for BN4.

THAT ONLY WORKS IN THE CLASSIC SERIES

BLOODY HELL CAPCOM

He did not HAVE to look as fanmade and stupid as he did. Remember, Kingman.EXE or whatever his name is was a contest winning entry as well, and he looked damn good.

homosexual (GAY)

Yeah we know what homosexual means, thanks.

He did not HAVE to look as fanmade and stupid as he did. Remember, Kingman.EXE or whatever his name is was a contest winning entry as well, and he looked damn good.

: The Man  17 July 2008, 15:51:50

homosexual (GAY)

Yeah we know what homosexual means, thanks.

oh i know, just trying to make a point

You made it twice.

i really enjoyed bn 4 and 6 altho 6 did have an very annoying ending. But 4 was awesome because that was when they first put souls in i loved that (altho i did like the styles but if u hated the 1 u get thats it u r stuck with it for ages)

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Please when typing to use punctuation and grammar and correct spelling.

Please remember when correcting to use grammar.

i really enjoyed bn 4 and 6 altho 6 did have an very annoying ending. But 4 was awesome because that was when they first put souls in i loved that (altho i did like the styles but if u hated the 1 u get thats it u r stuck with it for ages)

Though his point is inherently WRONG, this post demonstrates why first post members should be banned, as there are only 2 or 3 places one in instructed NOT to post in this manor (spelling, grammar, text like "words").  Phone keypads are just as bad as keyboards as they are game controllers.  REMEMBER THAT KIDS!

Wow, I just realized he said 4 was awesome.

Seriously, that's something.

Though his point is inherently WRONG, this post demonstrates why first post members should be banned, as there are only 2 or 3 places one in instructed NOT to post in this manor (spelling, grammar, text like "words").  Phone keypads are just as bad as keyboards as they are game controllers.  REMEMBER THAT KIDS!

My first post had perfect grammar and spelling. I'm pretty sure most of ours did.

Mine didn't, on the last board at least.

Mine always did on message boards, but on MChat, I used type most of my words out but no grammar and capitalizations.

I still kinda do, but its because its an instant chat, not a message board.

I'm sure I always typed sensibly, never like "u r cool lol", but I'm pretty sure that when I first joined, I wasn't as... well, it didn't look great.

That was a long time ago, though. Man, I've been coming here far too long. And there's still a handful of you guys that have been here almost double my time.

Yeah...


Also, I'm sure my posts were fine when I joined. No one ever said anything and I never got banned, so...

I promise you if I had joined NOW the way I was THEN, I'd be banned after about a month.

I've changed a lot, as an actual person in general. Back then, I was pretty dumb in every way.

I definitely remember doing some stupid stuff in MChat. And I'm sure I pulled the "I wanna' be a mod" line at one point.

I didn't like any of them more than another. But I guess 6 is better than the rest. By a little. Because playing as the Colonel seemed fun, for some reason.

It cannot be better 1-3, it just can't. And 2 is the best of those.

Battle Network 5

Dude, are you high?
Battle Network 5 the best!?

I threw up a little bit.

No no, he actually meant 2 but accidentally put the 2 upside down and it became deformed and became a 5. It happens.

It could just be an issue with  his handwriting.

People think 2 are 5 when I write them from time to time.

I don't understand how that works at all. They are "facing" opposite directions..

When the human element is involved in anything, ##### happens.

I voted for BN 2 and 3.

You mean 5 and E?

I love BNE!

You mean 5 and E?

Oh yea, man, I was so tired I completely messed up my numbers.

BNE was so cash. It was like a fusion of 4 and 5. Talk about being Godly.

BNL and 2 didn't even exist before E! How could it be a fusion?!

MAGIC!

With the powers of the forgotten Capcom Warlock anything is possible my man.

I liked 2 simply because of how much it made me laugh. I really enjoyed the scene on the airplane when you had to make Lan rap for whiskey.

I definitely do not remember that.

I WANT TO REMEMBER THAT SOUNDS #####ING ACE

It actually does happen on that plane scenario with MagnetMan.

This.

... but it's fun to imagine someone is going around my computer going PYU PYU PYU when I do a virus scan.

It makes me giggle on the inside...

What's really happening are some disgustingly complex lexical analysis/comparison tree techniques on the order of several thousand per second.

NetNavis actually cheapen the awesomeness of real virus busting.

But damn if they're not more marketable.

It's the gun arms.

You can sell anything with a gun arm.

(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee269/fragizzle72/lincoln.jpg)

Hooh rah.

How did he die again?

Oh. Right. Someone shot him the back of the head.

Pansy.

Next time he'll be prepared.

It takes a real pansy to shoot a pansy in the back of the head.

Seriously, dissen on my Abe Lincoln.

He was watching a play!

If he had been pointing a gun at his face, Abe would've laughed and then opened up with his gun arm of awesome. Geez.

Everyone knows he only got that gun arm after his "death" when the secret service rebuilt him as the six billion dollar prez.

"WHERE IS SARAH PALIN?"
(http://www.emezeta.com/weblog/terminator.jpg)

Tina Fey = Sarah Pallin

am i rite?!!?   8)

"WHERE IS SARAH PALIN?"
(http://www.emezeta.com/weblog/terminator.jpg)

Tina Fey = Sarah Pallin

am i rite?!!?   8)

Double unfunny.

Chron was funnier.

And dangit Abe, I thought you were Snare for a second.

Oh, no, Abe didn't like my terrible joke.
I'll go cut myself now.

How tragic.

And dangit Abe, I thought you were Snare for a second.

Av changed :P

Is that suppose to be the OCP logo?

One of them is one of the many iterations of the OCP logo, yes.

Oh, no, Abe didn't like my terrible joke.
I'll go cut myself now.

When did he say that? >_>

He probably deleted it, but Abe can still probably see deleted posts.

Something I've wanted to say for a while; Sarah Palin is NOT a MILF. She is NOT good looking. She is just better looking than other republicans who ran in the past, which means little since she's still a dog.

Also the Tina Fey-Sarah Palin lookalike thing was done on TV ages ago, and it wasn't funny then.

I did delete that a while back. It was an immature comment, but it still stands that I said it.
The terrible part is that I'm not even sure what my "joke" was. Something about Republicans.

And yes, Mikero, you're right.

And yet, all anyone talks about on TV or whatever is her slag daughter or how "hot" she is. She makes the prospect of the next time I get influenza almost appealing, though.

I really wasn't trying to be funny, I just remember that whole thing, it was ok, she did a brilliant impression, but SNL's humor has gone far downhill.

I really wasn't trying to be funny,

Yeah, because the "am i rite?!/1" with the ProtoMan smiley was completely serious.

I really wasn't trying to be funny, I just remember that whole thing, it was ok, she did a brilliant impression, but SNL's humor has gone far downhill.

HER fault. Well, somewhat.

And the only impressions she can do are of herself, so she just lucked out that she sort-of looks like Palin. I saw a clip of someone at the red carpet for the Emmy's or whatever it was was like "Here we are with Sarah Palin" and Tina Fey was like, you know in that Tina Fey way, "Haha! Isn't crazy how much I look like her?" and I was like "No. That is not crazy. That is least #####ing crazy thing I can think of right now. Even a lecture on the history of the pear is more crazy than how much you think you look like Spalingrad."

Yeah, because the "am i rite?!/1" with the ProtoMan smiley was completely serious.

It was a jest, I was not typing it going "Hey, I'm going to be really clever and funny". I never meant for it to be something that you would roll around laughing to. It was simply a nod at current events.

You aren't good at it.
Don't do it again.

There is no other choice it has to be 5 protoman and 6 Cybeast Falzar its no comparison, who wouldn't want to play as protoman...colonel is just a big panzy he doesn't compare to the almighty Protoman, as for Cyberbeast Falzar you can fire off rounds of shards that hurt the other person like hell and you are just holding down the button as well you can unison with other members that you befriended and can kill all in your wake, wahahahaha! its just that simple you are protoman god cyberbeast what more do you want!?

Better gameplay.

A good plot, decent chips and a challenge. And like Nova said, good gameplay.

BN5 =/= Col lik portoman 8) 8)

Even though I never played any BN game after the utter bile that was BN4 and when leading up to the release of BN5 and I knew was definitely not going to play it I could tell that Team Colonel was FAR cooler than Team Protoman for almost every possible reason.

MMBN4 blue moon is the one i'm currently playing and it's a bit complicated :-X

Yeah. Complicated would be the word I'd use.

It's so UNcomplicated and half-assed that they make you repeat the game instead of actually making a decent one.

And as if "X" allowed as a username.

I loved the original and 3, but I would have to go with the original.

I'm gonna have to go with BN6: Falzer. It's not fair for me to vote yet, since I haven't played 1-3. But oh well.

Your opinion is now revoked.

You can pick it up after playing battle network 2 or 3.

What about 1?

Still good, but not on the level that 2 and 3 were.

I think some of the characters look really ugly in their mug shots in 1-3, they look so much better in 4-6. And in the end, isn't that what it's all about? :D

Silliness aside, I'll buy all of them at the same time, then play the following BN game that's after the one I just completed.

I think some of the characters look really ugly in their mug shots in 1-3, they look so much better in 4-6. And in the end, isn't that what it's all about? :D

No...
No it isn't.

Good luck finding them, I still actually haven't found a copy of BN1. If you do, you're in for a treat.

On an almost entirely unrelated note, I just realized this Tuesday that one of my friends' bedroom could have been used as the blueprint for Mayl's.

I saw them all at GameStop. And if they aren't there anymore, Amazon.com is my answer. (##### ebay)

Good luck finding them

I had all but six until some jackass stole my collection. 3 is still floating around quite a bit... Then again I'm lucky enough to know a few self-owned businesses for games.

I recently got #5 back, new, from sears... so who knows. You might get off lucky.

I recently got #5 back

I haven't even finished that one yet. I hate those damn liberation missions.

4, 5 and 6 are absolute ##### games comapred to 1-3.  The chip system, program advances and style system are far more polished in the first 3.  Sprites are generally much better too.  Music is signifigantly less catch and uplifting in 4-6 and generally feels rather blah, samey and far less epic.  I won't even TOUCH the so called plots of 4-6.  Suffice to say they're shamefully bad and a joke even compared to what the plot was in the series to begin with.

It's so UNcomplicated and half-assed that they make you repeat the game instead of actually making a decent one.

And as if "X" allowed as a username.

well they never told ME anything about that ::)

Read the rules. D:

Right.

Aww look at that. The Metall yelling at the Noob. It's like a puppy chasing his own tail.

But the puppy is mildly retarded and maybe possibly transexual.

Actually I'm only mildly retarded. I'm not transsexual. (I checked.)

Then mister X is transexual. Both of you make up the puppy.

PUTTHEPUPPYDOWN!PUTTHEPUPPYDOWN!PUTTHEPUPPYDOWN!

Then mister X is transexual. Both of you make up the puppy.

I am no puppy. I am man. MAN

Boy don't try front I-I know just-just what you a-a-are.

How could a mere blind man such as yourself know who I am?

I knew you were Machine Man, and I'm an idiot.

You aren't that transparent, chuuuuuum-p!

As if I just quoted Britney Spears and no one said anything.

It doesn't sound so silly when you say it.

As if I just quoted Britney Spears and no one said anything.

I know the feeling, I just set up a great Ghost Busters bit in the "How was your day?" topic, five posts in and nothing!

I knew it was womanizer, but I wasn't about to start quoting Britney Spears songs.

I'm sure Sean isn't a womanizer anyway.

Well, he is a transexual.

Nope. :] I'm neither.

Quiet your face, Seen.

:: beats you all with tomatoe stick ::

Would any ADULTS like to talk about why Battle Network 4, 5 and 6 suck on high?

Excuse me, sir Rez, but have you played AND beat 4 or 6? Sure, 5 did indeed suck, but 4 and 6 were really great. (and MMHP agrees with me.)

4, yeah, it's hard and all, and there are some parts that are just annoying beyond limits (the story comps) But there are plenty of fun parts in the game. In fact, 89% of the time I played it, I was having a good time. The music is pretty cool, and exciting. The climax was good, and replaying it a second time was a treat.

6, much, much better than 4. Maybe not as climactic, but definitely a funner play. It has a perfectly fine battle system, and the story is great too. Maybe it was a little too easy, but I liked it. I wasn't constantly on my toes hoping not to die.

Now, I have been playing BN3 Blue version for a couple days now (don't ask me how, I'll be breaking the rules.) and I agree with it being really great. But, no, I'm not having as much fun. Sorry.

I know I'll be hated for this, but I'm not going to lie about my opinion just because a majority of the members here will disagree. Again, sorry.

Hated is an understatement, and everyone is entitled to their opinion, even if they do suck.

Now, I have been playing BN3 Blue version for a couple days now (don't ask me how, I'll be breaking the rules.)

...

HOW WER U PLAY TEH GAMES??! HOW!!!

Excuse me, sir Rez, but have you played AND beat 4 or 6? Sure, 5 did indeed suck, but 4 and 6 were really great. (and MMHP agrees with me.)

4, yeah, it's hard and all, and there are some parts that are just annoying beyond limits (the story comps) But there are plenty of fun parts in the game. In fact, 89% of the time I played it, I was having a good time. The music is pretty cool, and exciting. The climax was good, and replaying it a second time was a treat.

UHM.

How is 4 great at all? How is 4 hard at all?
Duo was a challenge, sure, but it was the ONLY real challenge I can remember in the game. And even then, he wasn't much (if at all) harder as Alpha from BN3 and Alpha wasn't really all that hard if you had decent piercing chips.

Replaying was NOT a treat, it was a C H O R E. I replayed the second time for the sole reason of getting a soul I wanted from a tournament. Got as far as that tournament, but then the #####ing game made it so I couldn't fight who I needed to again!

There was no way I was going to finish my second run (it would accomplish nothing, too) and play a THIRD time for the chance do get the soul. Forget it. Especially when I didn't have a good time for "89%" of the game. More like I had a crappy time through 100% of the game, all of which was less than half as long as the games before it.

And what "climax" was there? A story always follows this; Setting, Conflict, Rising Action, Climax, Denouement. I think BN4 managed to drag itself through the first two, barely getting the notion of decent conflict across, but the rest? No way. Not in any well made way, at least. Rising Action? Nope, just going from tournament to tournament without really knowing why. Climax? Repeat this paragraph. Denouement? No. It just ends and no one cares.

BN4 completely turned me off the series, and I loved the other ones. I didn't play 5 or 6 because of 4, and I can't really comment on those other than to say that I've never heard anything good about them from anyone who's opinion is usually good (whether I agree or not).

I'm sorry (kinda), but MMHP must be full of MMZ and Axl fans too. And people that like horses or something. ... Horses.

I know it's your opinion, I'm just letting you know how I see it.
That is; Correctly.

I'm sorry (kinda), but MMHP must be full of MMZ and Axl fans too. And people that like horses or something. ... Horses.

Um....only one person runs the site (a.k.a, makes the reviews and types everything.)

I didn't claim to know what it is, haha. I just figured it was another forum type scenario.

Nope. No forum. Here's a link:

http://www.mmhp.net/

Against my better judgment I clicked that. I should have taken your word for it.

In a minute I knew I didn't like that site. It looks good, which makes it seem like it's smart, but poking around a bit I realized it's not really made well. It's cluttered, which is an amateur mistake in site design.

I can't really find where it says BN4 is any good on there, and I don't really want to stay longer. I just went to see if the BN4 praise on the site is just ripped off from the back of the game's box.

The listing of MM Forums doesn't seem to have MMM or RPM, which is... Well that's just weird to me.

I didn't really read anything of unique value there except for a bit on the Buyer's Guide, which I only really assume is thorough because the page is long with lots of links and sections (but I don't know, the rest of the site looks cluttered).

Edit: I found the BN4 page, by having to go through other pages (bad site design). Not really an unfair review, but it scored high because of how things change when you break down things and rate it. I definitely don't agree with the 85% thing, the game isn't even fun in the first place so that should be an automatic middle finger.

You're right with the whole cluttered thing. EVERYTHING is drawn. Be it the buttons or the borders.

But, I only use the Game Hints pages.

EDIT: The site was mentioned in Rezs' comic: Ask Dr. Wily.

This is BN4 summed up:

Go to game's first original area comp, getting those #####ing bats, "fight" Shade Man.
Go do stupid preliminary for first Tourney that involves an annoying fetch quest or two.
Go to first Tourney, do alot of fetch quests involving you to to go to Town 3 alot and back.
Have to do a ripoff of BN3's FlameMan scenario and have to go ALL THE WAY TO PARK AREA 2 DOING THIS.
Go to game's second original area comp, going back and forth getting the stupid story pieces having to GUESS the story unless you read them beforehand like 5 times. "Fight" Shade Man again.
Second preliminary involving searching EVERY #####ING PLACE to get points.
Go to second tourney involving going to Park Area 3 about 46984 times.
Fight a Dark version of GutsMan or AquaMan.
Get kidnapped in Netopia and be forced to go all around Netopia area to escape.
Play through final tourney in which you are either forced to do a #####ING MAZE, or GO TO THE DAMN UNDERNET AND GET THE GOD DAMN C-SLIDER #####, OR BE CURSED, OR FREEZE TO DEATH, OR GET SNIPED, OR BE FORCED TO FIND #####ING KEYS IN THE UNDERNET.
...
Go to NAXA (ugh).
Be forced to go to EVERY AREA AROUND THE WORLD and destroy some gate to allow access to the Net (the Officials couldn't do this #####, so they send a KID?)
Find out Regal is the bad guy all along (WHO SAW THAT COMING?!)
Have to do a retarded puzzle in the game's last area involving planets and mashing buttons.
Fight Nebula's 2nd and last member, LaserMan.
Fight your Dark Soul, who seems to be harder than Duo with his chip spamming.
Fight Duo.
Save the world with friendship power. Ugh.


Okay. That was longer than I thought... but whatever.

And that's why I hate BN4. So full of ##### NO ONE wants to do.

.......

Meh, I still liked it.

But no one ever complains about BN6. Not that I know of.

There's a few things here and there.
It's not necessarily bad, but it's not really up to par with the first 3. See it as the X8 of Battle Network.

I have no urge to even look at my Battle Network 4 game cartridge. That's how bad the game is.

Oyi...

Battle Network 4 was a series killer.  The gameplay was changed for the WORSE in every possible way.  I'll break down how the game was utterly destroyed from a gameplay standpoint first.

1) Soul Unisons replace Styles.  Yes, SUs are a lot more in theme with Mega Man than Styles were, but guess what, unlike Classic and X SUs stymied gameplay and were a SIGNIFICANT step back from Styles in the way they were used and worked.  Styles were based on how you PLAY the game.  They were permanent and enhanced the way you preferred to play.  SUs on the other hand, did the exact opposite.  They are rather arbitrary to how you play.  In addition, you don't start the battle using them, but instead have to activate them using a certain chip which you have to wait to randomly show up in your folder.  You can't set it as your regular chip.  As it requires a chip to activate, that means you had to forgo an actual USEFULL chip to add it.  And to increase the chance you GET the type of chip you had to add more, resulting in a good chunk of your folder being JUNK used to activate the SU.  And don't even TRY to say the needed chips were any good for anything other than activating the SU, because they weren't.  Oh, and that SU you had to go though so much ##### to activate?  It lasts 3 turns.  Then you're stuck with a gimped folder full of crap chips whose only use is to activate said now unusable SU.  I undersand they tweaked the system a bit in 6, but it was still largely the same, making just as useless compared to Styles.

2) Multi Version Gimping.  Yes, 3 had 2 versions, but the "extras" between them were largely cosmetic.  4 began cutting the game material in half between 2 versions.  1 2 and 3 had EVERYTHING in one version and the experience was all the stronger and satisfying.  The overall feel and enjoyment of the series was severely damaged by artificially splitting the game content between 2 versions.

3) Chip selection/Program Advances were neutered.  3 is somewhat guilty of this as well, as what was expanded upon to the nth degree in 4-6 started in 3.  Program Advances were almost as worthless in 4-6 as they were in 1, but in 1 they were really a lot more downplayed and "secret".  2 has the best chip selection and PAs in the series hands down.  The broken PAs were fairly hard to get and I think that balanced it out well enough.  Chips themselves were also toned down far too much and the folder limits were just ridiculous in the last 3 games.  Even though 3 took a noticeable hit in this department, again, it wasn't as exacerbated as in 4-6.

4) LOL NET FETCH QUESTS.  4-6 abuse random backtracking and pointless fetch quests in the general net areas to the point at worst BN4 has something like all of 3 unique areas.  5 and 6 are really no better.  1 and 2 consisted of mostly unique computer areas with just about the right amount of using the general net areas.  3 was noticeable heavy on net areas, but not nearly so bad as 4-6.

5) Forced replay value.  4 made you play the game over and over to get everything you really should have just got in one playthough.  Add to that the fact the game was vomit to begin with and between the game content being split between 2 versions AND replays you pretty much miss
70% of the game in the first playthrough with no real pay off.  I don't recall if 5 and 6 pulled this ##### too.

6) Add button?  What's that?  Yes, the add button was removed from your chip select screen.  It was often incredably helpful to skip a turn to increase your selection of chips.  It offered some good depth for some strategy.  4-6 felt noticably slower and harder to get the chips you need when you needed them.  There was NO reason to remove this gameplay element.

In many ways 3 was a hybrid between the first and second set of games.  3 really previewed the awful direction the series would take while still utilizing a lot of the great stuff the first two had.  I quit playing 4 at the end of the 2nd tournament.  It was all just tournament, net quests, tournament, net quest, rinse wash repeat.  The game didn't get better.  I kept a close eye on 5 and was absolutely appalled by it.  It (not surprisingly) kept most all the foundation of 4, and added a horribly gimmicky "liberation" tactical wannabe net battle gauntlet element.  Same gimped gameplay, new added suck.  6 follows the exact same formula with trivial and minimal changes to the formula of 4 and 5.

I can not respect the opinion of anyone who thinks any of those 3 games are good in any way shape or form, and there is absolutely no defence of the poor quality these titles provide.

Once again, another good read from Rez.

So true. BN4 had only 3 unique areas, and two actual storyline bosses.

BN5 and 6 didn't do the replay #####, but in BN5 in order to have the viruses upgrade (Like Mettaur 1/EX to Mettaur 2/2EX) you'd have to access the secret area, which was retarded.

At LEAST in 6 you see V2/V3 viruses on the first playthrough...

And BN4 removed the great ADD function from BN1-3... what a terrible decision.

I wouldn't mind 6 too much if half of the game's contents were axed from the original Japanese version.

And BN4 removed the great ADD function from BN1-3... what a terrible decision.

... I completely forgot to add that.  Yes.  That was a HUGE blow to the gameplay.

I donno guys...
BN5 was pretty good for the price I paid for it

... $5.00 before tax.
                In sear's discount bin.

... you could have spent that $5 and had someone punch you in the face.  And it would have been better spent.

And it would have made a better story.

3) Chip selection/Program Advances were neutered.  3 is somewhat guilty of this as well, as what was expanded upon to the nth degree in 4-6 started in 3.  Program Advances were almost as worthless in 4-6 as they were in 1, but in 1 they were really a lot more downplayed and "secret".  2 has the best chip selection and PAs in the series hands down.  The broken PAs were fairly hard to get and I think that balanced it out well enough.  Chips themselves were also toned down far too much and the folder limits were just ridiculous in the last 3 games.  Even though 3 took a noticeable hit in this department, again, it wasn't as exacerbated as in 4-6.

This will be an extra mini rant from me in addition to this: Only thing I can really comment, since I agree with everything else, is that I liked the chips and chip system in BN3. Maybe I'm missing something, but it was right to me. I also enjoyed limiting chips to Standard, Mega, and Giga. Even limiting the chips like so, the game still was balanced. Standard chips kept a battle going, Mega pumped it up a little, and Giga chips could be devastating.

When I played BN4, that felt lost. Some of my favorite chips that were Standard and SHOULD'VE REMAINED standard were now Mega. Also, Mega chips felt as weak as Standard chips. It's like the lowered the bar so much on them, they completely unbalanced everything. In my first playthrough, I got my FIRST Mega chip when I was HALFWAY through the game. ONLY ONE.

Let me explain how that feels. Try playing Mega Man 2 and only after beating 4 of the Robot Masters do you get a weapon. ABOUT FREAKING TIME. The chips felt hardly of any use or of an improvement to your folder no matter what, and getting any GOOD ones involved replaying the game. You have to run with crap, and choose the BEST crap out of whatever crap you have to choose from, and beat the final boss with that.

OH THATS SO ENJOYABLE LETS PLAY THIS GAME.

BN3 started the crap too, Chaos. The classes limited the Navi chips and other chips you could have, and multiples too.

For example, you can't have Muramasa, a Mega chip, and 5 Navi Chips. Only 4, since they now classified all as Mega...

What they should have done, if anything, is keep the Standard class, add a new class for those slightly powerful standard chips from BN2 that AREN'T Navi Chips, (Maybe call THAT the Mega class and call the Navi Chips the Navi Class), have the Navi chips in another class, and finally, the Giga class.

That's how I think it should have been done. And of course the new class would have the same restrictions as the Mega class did, except it didn't limit the Navi chips you could have too...

BUT I DIGRESS...

Yeah, but you see, I LIKED that. Muramasa is a pretty powerful chip, and worthy of a Mega class. I dunno, I thought the chip selection and classes given felt right in Battle Network 3.

Not so much in BN4.

##### YOU MMBN4

MURAMASA IS NOT A GOD DAMNED DARK CHIP!!!!


...though I was totally cool with it being a Mega chip, I made more damage with it, and the body guard PA, than half of the navi chips.

It's not even an especially good chip...

Too bad the BodyGuard PA was horrible nerfed in BN4.

10 stars. 100 damage each... up to 1000 damage, but they shoot SLOW... if I recall correctly.

In BN2 and 3 it did 1800 damage total if all hit. And to bosses that usually happens.

I would say Battle Network 4 red sun.I love that one.

C-C-C-COMBO BREAKERRR!!!

I'm floored.

I would say 4.5. I love that one

My fav is the 4th one! realy likke tha one!

You...Posted that three posts ago...

Okay, I can't take him seriously anymore. Actually, I never did take him seriously.

Why did you ever?

I would say Battle Network 4 red sun.I love that one.

My fav is the 4th one! realy likke tha one!

BN4 sucks you turd. Although it's not at all surprising you like it.

BN6 has to be the best of them all, you get the cybeast and beast crossover, but I couldnt find 1-3 to play them.

Haven't played 1-3?

I haven't played any!

BN2 > BN3 > BN1 > BN6 >>>> BN5 >>>>>>>>> Brain Tumor >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BN4

Only 16 >s between BN2 and a brain tumor?

Only 21 >'s between BN4 and brain tumor?

Well, I guess an infinite number of >'s takes a long time to type.

Guys it doesn't matter the (I guess) person hasn't played BN1-3 because they said they liked BN6 because you get those cross things. So BN1-3, which is pretty devoid of any of that spectacularly gimmicky garbaggio, is going to somehow end up on this kid's ##### list real quick.

I would have to say 3 or 6, because I've never played 1 & 2. I have 4 & 5, but 4 made you replay the game 3 times. And 5 had those liberation missions.

You completely missed the completely best ones completely.

Like battle chip challenge! It takes massive skizzles! XD

It doesn't remotely require any effort and the game is terrible.

You completely missed the completely best ones completely.

Yeah but, he played 3. That's like... the second best one.

But BN2 is by far the best.

I'm pretty sure the second best one is the first one.

I'm pretty sure the second best one is the first one.

Correct.

Huh. I always thought it was viewed as "BN2 > BN3 > BN1 > the rest".

Although I do like BN1 better than BN3. BN3 added the stupid chip classes that made normal chips from BN1/2 basically into Navi Chips. Not to mention alot of the game's scenarios are on the Net instead of a stage.

Either way, blah blah BN4 and above suck blah blah.

I'd much rather play BN3 over BN1 any day, so it's just a matter of opinion I guess.

I've never played BN1, but I've seen enough of it that I'm pretty sure I'd like it better than BN3, which was pretty good enough but still rather disappointing after the success of BN2. The same exact thing happened with Back To The Future.

Battle system felt off in BN1, but it was the first one, so hey.

A sequel is always judged harder than a It's kind of like...

OK think of the movie Rope. If a filmmaker was just starting out and Rope was his/her first film, everyone would think it's a pretty great job. However, Rope was done by Alfred Hitchcock and after the movies he'd done before it, it doesn't compare and it widely regarded as one of (if not definitely) his least entertaining films.

So even if BN1 and BN3 are on par with each other, BN1 is better because BN3 should have learned from the past.

My first BN game was the red sun (Lucky cause if i got blue moon i would have stuck with all the crappy souls) i was nooby at video games at that time so I did some stupid stuff then i got BN 6 Gregar which was the first BN game i ever fully completed (and I mean FULLY) and it was pretty fun for me, then i got BN 3 white and was a better challenge then 6 which i enjoyed alot, I spent most of my time to get Aqua cust, then i rebought red sun and by this time i was way better at BN games and was less difficult then before (But duo was still a pain in my ass) and Ive almost fully completed the game i just all the mega chips and P.A's. It's pretty difficult to pick one I like the most.