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Mikero
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« Reply #2600 on: 22 December 2015, 11:45:18 »

Ant-Man is my #3 Marvel Movie now.  Behind Guardians and Avengers 1.  Cap 1 gets moved down to #4.

Little late but this is a pro list.
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« Reply #2601 on: 24 December 2015, 05:43:45 »

I'm a pro guy!
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« Reply #2602 on: 25 December 2015, 21:28:47 »

Star Wars: The Force Awakens was a lot of fun and a good movie. The first 10-15 minutes of the film felt very disjointed, almost like Disney stepped in and was like "JJ, you're directing a Star Wars film, not one of your Star Trek reboots. Calm your tits." Rest of it was great. Probably going to see it again for my anniversary.
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« Reply #2603 on: 27 December 2015, 02:06:57 »

I concur.  Force Awakens is solid.  It does have some issues, but it's got that proper Star Wars vibe the prequels never did.  Episode 7 is more Star Wars than a single second of the entire prequel trilogy.  The practical effects made a SIZABLE difference in the the movie and made if feel real.  Not some 90% green screen garbage.
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« Reply #2604 on: 20 February 2016, 13:51:56 »

Oh, definitely. While the all-CGI thing was an interesting experiment, it did royally screw the movies. Meanwhile, the new movie just looked fantastic and real.

Posted on: December 28, 2015, 08:49:37 PM

I saw Spectre and Deadpool. Spectre was a good Bond movie, but they completely wasted the character of Mr. Hinx, and John Logan needs to drop the father/son issues in his writing. The dude literally can't write a movie without parental issues in it. Not every #####ing movie is going to be a Greek tragedy.

Deadpool was excellent. Well done and funny as hell.
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« Reply #2605 on: 23 February 2016, 16:14:37 »

Deadpool was every bit as good as a Marvel film.  I hope to GOD Fox learns from the massive success of it and applies that level of faithfulness to the X-Men next tim... oh who am I kidding.  At least Deadpool was gold.
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« Reply #2606 on: 10 March 2016, 04:36:59 »

The only thing that Fox learned is that audiences will go see an R-rated film based on a comic book. Everything else is ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...

I just saw Gods of Egypt, which was not a particularly good film, but highly entertaining. The concept itself is ridiculous and it took me about half of the film to buy into it, but once you do, it was a very fun ride. The acting is mostly terrible, with Gerard Butler pretty much carrying the film by himself. The 3D was gorgeous. I'd be up for watching it again.
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« Reply #2607 on: 21 March 2016, 23:47:48 »

you guys ready for Batman Vs. Superman? Me and the wife will be there night 1...im nervous of Afleck but I give him the benifit of the doubt based on the extended trailer they showed of him fighting..im looking forward to it me and my wife
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« Reply #2608 on: 22 March 2016, 19:37:00 »

BvS looks like dog #####.  Seriously, it's so god damn grimdark and "realistic" and "not comic booky" it hurts.  It's a "mature film for mature film goers like me and not some kiddie comic #####" just like Man of Steel, which is one of the single worst comic book adaptations ever made.  And that's what BvS is based on/building on.

It will still make hundreds of millions of dollars, so by that measure, it will be a "good" movie.
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« Reply #2609 on: 24 March 2016, 06:19:19 »

I haven't liked anything Snyder since 300...

I'm still going to see it probably. I don't have anything against the tone of the movie. I liked The Dark Knight, but Rises was godawful in my opinion. I don't think being "comic booky" is inherently better because it's gotten old with Marvel lately. I haven't really liked much from Marvel since the first Avengers. "Grimdark" might be boring, but it's at least a contrast to when I've gotten bored of a lot of Marvel's recent attempts at humour. Deadpool notwithstanding.
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« Reply #2610 on: 28 March 2016, 21:53:34 »

If it's a comic book, it should have that tone.  Most of DC falls into that.  The BEST animated DC stuff is that in spades.  It doesn't have to be ##### just because it's live action.  Marvel has absolutely NAILED the tone of it's comics in it's movies.  They're far from perfect, but they're generally good and loyal to the source material in both tone AND content.  DC can not say the same thing, at all.  As a fan of these characters, it makes me extremely sad to see them portrayed with such a deafness to tone and style of the source material for the sake of making it "mature" or "not comic booky".

But as I said, this is Superman and Batman.  That ALONE will make half a billion, regardless of if it's good or bad.  And make no mistake this is a BAD movie.  Period.  Can you imagine if they'd nailed the tone and style?  They'd have easily made billions.  Marvel has done it, and with C and D tier characters because they respect the source material and it's style and tone.  DC does not and does not.
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« Reply #2611 on: 31 March 2016, 01:57:51 »

Marvel IS doing a better job. I saw the movie and I pretty much agree. All I'm saying, though, is that I don't mind superhero movies being dark or taking themselves seriously. I don't think that's an inherently bad thing, just as I don't think the Marvel style is bad either. It's just that we've gotten so much out of Marvel lately and since they've set the bar high, my expectations have gotten higher. If Batman V Superman movies was like more of the same stuff we'd seen from Marvel, I'd feel like an opportunity for variety was missed.

But yes, regardless of what path DC movies want to take in the future, they still need to do better.
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« Reply #2612 on: 1 April 2016, 20:27:59 »

Marvel isn't a "style" of comic book movie, it's just actually portraying it's characters far more accurately.  Making a superhero movie that is dark or takes it's self seriously is FINE, but not when you do it for something that isn't dark/serious JUST for the sake of doing that.  And that's what they did for BvS, MoS and is the general direction DC is taking it's CU.  Batman, as edge lord as he's portrayed sometimes isn't and doesn't HAVE to be as dark as he's been of late.

And that's the problem with DC, they're doing dark, serious and mature JUST to do that, regardless of if that's what the tone and characters call for.  I don't even recognize MoS/BvS Superman.  He's not Superman in any meaningful way the character has been for 60 years.  People, who seriously/unironically defend this portrayal of him or that BvS is literally a cinematic  masterpiece and transcendent comic book movie are blowing out more ##### from their ass than Galactus after eating a Jupiter sized burrito from Taco Bell.  I have no issue with people liking the movie, but it's a HORRIBLE rendition of the characters, and criminally off tone.  Suicide Squad is going under reshoots to make it "funnier".  That's entirely due to the large amount of negative feedback on how dark and soulless MoS and BvS are.  But even then, it's just another knee jerk reaction to try to catch more of that Marvel Money Train.  It has NONE of the forethought that Marvel has put into their stuff.  Just like shoving more of the cut BvS footage to make an "R" rated cut to try to piggyback off Deadpool's R rated success without ANY attempt to understand WHY Deadpool was rated R and why it worked.

I could go on forever about it but I'll end it there. 
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« Reply #2613 on: 2 April 2016, 21:00:03 »

Marvel movies all conform in a way that has a recognizable style. That's all I was saying.

My only motivation for believing that allowing varying tones and character interpretations is acceptable is that I liked Batman Begins and The Dark Knight. You also might smite me for saying it, but I even liked The Amazing Spider-Man. However when it comes to your reasons for not liking BvS I pretty much agree.
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« Reply #2614 on: 6 April 2016, 23:22:34 »

Marvel movies all conform in a way that has a recognizable style. That's all I was saying.

.....You also might smite me for saying it, but I even liked The Amazing Spider-Man.

So for the record Andrew Garfield had probably the best interpretation of Peter Parker I've seen, save for this Civil War Spidey(Tom Holland is his name right?). He is unproven and I'll hold judgement on him. I feel like Garfield was snubbed because he did an awesome job and I think he wouldve fit in quite nicely considering that his rendition of Spidey/PP is from the Ultimate universe, as is all these MCU characters/movies.
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« Reply #2615 on: 29 November 2017, 03:09:01 »

I really enjoyed Batman v Superman. I thought it was a lot of fun, although if you go in there hoping for Batman and Superman to be duking it out for most of the movie, you'll be disappointed.

Only other film I've completed lately is Trainwreck with Amy Schumer. I thought it was okay, but it fell into the generic rom-com crap at the end. Worth a watch and I'm glad I got it for free, but I don't know if I'll ever feel the need to watch it again.

Posted on: April 09, 2016, 09:07:38 PM

So I've been watching a lot of documentaries as of late because my younger son gets really upset over people raising their voices angrily or shouting, so pretty much all action, drama, and comedy films are right out the window. We are currently watching The September Issue, which is about the American office of Vogue magazine trying to get their fall fashion issue ready, as it's the biggest #####ing thing in the fashion industry. It's really well done, and as all good documentaries do, it teaches you quite a bit about the subject.
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« Reply #2616 on: 29 November 2017, 13:28:11 »

Thor Ragnarok was the best Thor movie. Considering I hated the first two, that isn't saying a lot but I'm happy to say it was pretty decent movie. Spider-Man Homecoming was serviceable, Black Panther looks tight.

So on that subject, I'm just seeing all this now but... Better a year and a half late, with more films out as examples, than never:

Marvel movies all conform in a way that has a recognizable style. That's all I was saying.

This is 100% true and they did by design. After, I think the first Avengers movie, they started making all the Marvel films look and feel the same. In terms of writing style the Marvel films started to lean much more towards comedy, which has it's place, but has gone overboard. For example, Thor himself shouldn't be cracking actual jokes. His character is best when he says funny things out of ignorance or arrogance (or both). The recent Thor movie shows Thor acting more like Star Lord in it's opening scene, making up of his predicament and joking about spinning on a rope. It's minor, and doesn't hurt the film overall, but Thor isn't the type of character that should know he's funny. This lean towards accessible comedy directly contrasts what DC had done with Man Of Steel and Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice (horrible title) and it's kept Marvel's films more successful. Justice League had Joss Whedon go in and try to punch up the comedy just to compete, and Suicide Squad attempted it with reshoots, however I think Marvel should dial it back to pre-Avengers levels.

For example, Captain America: The First Avenger (mediocre title) is probably still my favourite Marvel film thus far because everything in it is perfectly measured. It has funny moments, and serious ones, and treats the character with a level of respect that I, frankly, wasn't sure they could pull off. At the time, this was a big roll of the dice--Captain America and the Red Skull on film can very easily go wrong. I feel that care for tone in Marvel films had been pushed a bit to the side for a while post-Avengers, however I think they are starting the right the ship with Thor Ragnarok and Black Panther.

Now looks-wise, we have a whole other thing. By shooting digital and adding a blue-grey wash, Marvel forced a bunch of it's films to fit a rubric of "The Marvel Universe". It makes sense in theory; Force the idea of a cohesive universe on these popcorn munching idiots. In practice however, all the movies started to look like garbage (in aesthetic terms only) when the audience wasn't THAT stupid in the first place. We don't need colour grading to inform us that Dr. Strange exists in the same universe as Ultron. I specifically noticed it for myself during the huge fight scene in Civil War. I sat in the theatre thinking "This is all I've wanted and it looks terrible, why is this not enjoyable?"

Recently they've gone back to varying the colour palette at least a little bit, which I appreciate. All of this has been done very well in Marvel's Netflix shows. There is a very well done video essay on the subject of colour grading in Marvel movies.

I've only watched two of the new era DC movies, I think they all look awful, and only one of those had 2/3 good acts. That was Wonder Woman. The other one I've watched was Man of Steel, which is one of the worst things I have ever seen and I've watched people at an apple store before.

The Infinity War trailer came out today. I don't often like to watch trailers for things I know I'm seeing anyway, but I took a look and I honestly have no idea what I think of it.
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« Reply #2617 on: 30 November 2017, 16:28:01 »

I watched the trailer yesterday and I wasn't impressed. As you said, Marvel movies are all becoming the same to the point where Captain America: Civil War was boring (which makes me sad because it should've knocked it out of the park). I liked Doctor Strange but trippy visuals aside, it felt like Iron Man. The only deviation that seems to be allowed is GotG.
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« Reply #2618 on: 1 December 2017, 13:24:41 »

Yeah, like... It's tremendous and I should be over the moon but that trailer was just exactly what I expected it to be. I guess I wanted to learn more about the story? I don't usually like that, but we already know a bunch of the AVENGERS would be in it. Probably not a trailer directed at people who were already gonna go, though.

Plus visually it's a very bland trailer. Like Iron Man in Hulkbuster armor flies in front a city that is very near to his colour palette--That's not a good look. I know the movie will probably knock my socks off (and I'll never get them back on) but the trailer didn't move the needle either way for me.
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« Reply #2619 on: 2 December 2017, 04:49:55 »

So as you guys may know, I do reviews for video games for my friend's podcast, The SML Podcast. Each episode is long as hell, but it's pretty fun. Anyway, occasionally he is given a movie to review - last one they did was Need For Speed, if that gives you an idea. I was given this independent look at the Call of Duty franchise called CODumentary, which got a physical media release as well as Steam, iTunes, and I think Amazon.

It's just not very good. It's one-sided, a lot of talking heads, you don't really learn anything unless you know absolutely nothing about the series, and the last thirty minutes is about how COD is God's gift to eSports and focuses on a bunch of players who we aren't given reasons to give a ##### about them. It's just plain bad, and worse there were three storylines that they could've followed that would've been infinitely more interesting (even if it meant we got three short documentaries!), but drop them as side notes. Avoid, avoid, avoid.
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« Reply #2620 on: 4 December 2017, 01:44:58 »

CoD is ALWAYS an "avoid".  You don't need to tell us that.  But we appreciate it none the less.
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« Reply #2621 on: 4 December 2017, 17:52:11 »

The only good cod is the kind served on a stick and dipped in caramel.
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« Reply #2622 on: 4 December 2017, 21:19:05 »

Who eats fish with caramel?
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« Reply #2623 on: 4 December 2017, 21:55:02 »

CoD is ALWAYS an "avoid".  You don't need to tell us that.  But we appreciate it none the less.

This was about five years ago, but I took a marketing survey about how I played Call of Duty, and one of the situations they asked about was about releasing the single-player campaign as a standalone download for $20. I was really enthusiastic about it, because I couldn't give a ##### about multiplayer, but they never bothered doing it. Disappointed by that, really.
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« Reply #2624 on: 5 December 2017, 17:41:17 »

Maybe they're like current EA and they think no one wants single-player anymore.
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